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July 5th, 2017, 05:56 AM   #1
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Never existed - a fixed number of circles.

Never existed – a fixed number of circles.
But always exists – a fixed number of squares.

The mathematics of squares is very simple

Square circumference will be marked with c
Square diagonal will be marked with d

Two squares are arbitrarily selected. C1 = 3 mm c2 = 137 mm

If c 1 = 3 mm , then d 1 = ( 3 : 4 ) root 2
If c 2 = 137 mm , then d 2 = ( 137 : 4 ) root 2

Therefor

c1 : c 2 = d 1 : d 2

c 1 : d 1 = c 2 : d 2 = 4 : ( root 2 ) = K1

K1 is the constant number of all squares ( 2.8284271…)


The mathematics of circles is not simple

Circle circumference will be marked with c
Circle diameter will be marked with d
Two circles are arbitrarily selected c 1 = 3 mm , c 2 = 137 mm

Now divide the C1 into 360 equal parts
Each part is a small arc that its length = 3 mm : 360 = 0.008333…mm
To each end of one arc , we add a straight line, marked with r
The straight lines create an angle of 1 degree

Length of 2r = 3 : 360 \ sin 0.5 = 0.9549417
2r is d1 of c 1
0.9549417 is d 1 of c 1

C 1 : d 1 = 3 : 0.9549417 = 3.141553

To be more precise, we subtract 0.01% from 0.9549417 because the arc is very crooked, and it longer then the string

C 1 : d 1 = 3 : 0.9548745 = 3.1417741

Now divide the C2 into 360 equal parts
Each part is a small arc that is long = 137 mm : 360 = 0.380555…mm
To each end of one arc ,we add a straight line, marked with r
The straight lines create an angle of 1 degree

Length of 2r = 137 : 360 \ sin 0.5 = 43.609185
2r is d 2 of c 2
43.609185 is d 2 of c 2

C 2 : d 2 = 137 : 43.609 = 3.141553

To be more precise, we subtract 0.002 % from 43.609185 - because
The arc is not very crooked , and it very little longer from the string.

C 2 : d 2 = 137 : 43.608313 = 3.1416028

C 1 : d 1 = = = = = = = = = 3.1417741

C 1 : c 2 ( is not = ) c 2 : d 2

These figures illustrate the very small change in the ratio c : d
This ratio depends on c
When C is close to zero mm , the ratio is maximum ( 3.164)
When c is close to infinity mm , the ratio is minimum ( 3.1416)
The mean ratio of 3.15 will be at c = 0.001 mm
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All that is said is a theory, and only a real measurement can prove it

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Let's close this thread.
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why ?

Why close? You can not answer me
It is always worthwhile to express ideas, and you can ignore them.
Maybe someone will find interest?
I do not want to be answered, but I do ask that I do not close

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I have answrred you already, but you are unwilling or unable to understand. You refuse to engage with anyone who disagrees with your ideas other than to repeat them ad nauseam. There is nothing of value here, all it does is to risk confusing people who are genuinely trying to learn.
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Why close? You can not answer me
It is always worthwhile to express ideas, and you can ignore them.
Maybe someone will find interest?
I do not want to be answered, but I do ask that I do not close

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You do realise that the majority of 'reputable' math forums on the internet wouldn't allow this to be around for more than a few minutes. It probably wouldn't even be marked as off topic, but rather, spam. Do you see what I am getting at here?

There is no ignorance more profound than that of someone who is not willing to learn and accept fault. And yes, this requires one to be rather persistent and motivated, but heck, there's always going to be some form of light at the end of the tunnel, it's worth the effort.

How do you expect one to be sympathetic in such a situation? Only an ignorant person could possibly be possessed by sympathy in such a scenario.

Anyways, please, if you have time to do this, why not do something productive! A large number of people would kill to have a bit of extra time in their day to sit around and ponder mathematics. If you happen to have that extra time, don't waste it!
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I have answrred you already, but you are unwilling or unable to understand. You refuse to engage with anyone who disagrees with your ideas other than to repeat them ad nauseam. There is nothing of value here, all it does is to risk confusing people who are genuinely trying to learn.
I do not like arguing, and I have the opportunity to publish.
If anyone finds it interesting, of course I will.
Why do you come up with an idea of closing? What's the point?
Will you be pleased if they silence me?
Or do you suggest just reciting what is written in books?
I believe in what I publish, and you reject, and you can certainly disqualify.
But why shut up?

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Yet again you ignore the answer I have given. This is why we should close the thread: because you neither listen nor understand. It's not a conversation, it's you repeating your nonsense over and over again.

It doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. Mathematics doesn't care about belief, it cares about proof which you don't have.
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You do realise that the majority of 'reputable' math forums on the internet wouldn't allow this to be around for more than a few minutes. It probably wouldn't even be marked as off topic, but rather, spam. Do you see what I am getting at here?

There is no ignorance more profound than that of someone who is not willing to learn and accept fault. And yes, this requires one to be rather persistent and motivated, but heck, there's always going to be some form of light at the end of the tunnel, it's worth the effort.

How do you expect one to be sympathetic in such a situation? Only an ignorant person could possibly be possessed by sympathy in such a scenario.

Anyways, please, if you have time to do this, why not do something productive! A large number of people would kill to have a bit of extra time in their day to sit around and ponder mathematics. If you happen to have that extra time, don't waste it!
I know my subject sounds unreal and improbable.
But I'm sure he's right.
so what to do ?
It's enough for me to publish.
I'm not looking for approval
I'm not looking for support
It's enough for me to publish, and whoever finds interest will find.
I answer only to someone who writes to me, and if you do not write it's fine.
Why close? That is the question

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Yet again you ignore the answer I have given. This is why we should close the thread: because you neither listen nor understand. It's not a conversation, it's you repeating your nonsense over and over again.

It doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. Mathematics doesn't care about belief, it cares about proof which you don't have.
hy close?
You can ignore what I write, and that's okay.
You're 100 percent sure I'm wrong and talk nonsense, you're allowed.
If the method of closing will be accepted .... Where does our company come from?
Tomorrow someone will be sure of himself, and will offer to close what you write.
I do not disturb anyone who wants to read
And who will not? He will also be blessed

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I know my subject sounds unreal and improbable.

But I'm sure he's right.

so what to do ?

It's enough for me to publish.

I'm not looking for approval

I'm not looking for support

It's enough for me to publish, and whoever finds interest will find.

I answer only to someone who writes to me, and if you do not write it's fine.

Why close? That is the question



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Because your online presence impacts other people! That's why.

We all make mistakes, but it's a totally different situation to actively claim and 'publish' results that you believe (without consideration of review) to be true.

People who are new to the field of mathematics, and who are not familiar with, or even aware of the dogma will likely not view every bit of math with skepticism and careful eyes.

This can lead to a perhaps warped view of ideas which could take a large portion of time to correct. Unlearning is much more difficult that learning.



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