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 July 5th, 2017, 09:11 AM #21 Math Team   Joined: Dec 2013 From: Colombia Posts: 6,854 Thanks: 2228 Math Focus: Mainly analysis and algebra I'm in danger of using inflammatory language if this carries on.
July 5th, 2017, 09:21 AM   #22
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This is the first time.....

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 Originally Posted by Benit13 But it can! We've been trying to tell you this for 2 years now...
Listen, this is the first time in history that physical measurement is required in the geometric field.
Therefore, I am not surprised at the opposition against me.
I also understand the source of this objection.
At any time in the future, a respected scientific institution will conduct the experiment I have proposed.
At least they knew that there was a heated debate on the subject

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July 5th, 2017, 09:25 AM   #23
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Give a smile, laughter cures everything

July 5th, 2017, 09:25 AM   #24
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 Originally Posted by aetzbar Listen, this is the first time in history that physical measurement is required in the geometric field.
No it's not, because there is mathematical proof of the constancy of pi in Euclidean space.

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 Therefore, I am not surprised at the opposition against me. I also understand the source of this objection. At any time in the future, a respected scientific institution will conduct the experiment I have proposed. At least they knew that there was a heated debate on the subject Thanks
What are you talking about? Ancient Greeks have derived proofs and done the experiments you're talking about and come to the conclusion that pi is a constant.

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 July 5th, 2017, 09:34 AM #25 Banned Camp   Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Your inner truth est your inner truth well and you will find that there is no such proof. The ancient Greeks also did not conduct the experiment I presented. This experiment requires very precise mechanical technology, which exists only in the years of this century Thanks
July 5th, 2017, 09:35 AM   #26
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 Originally Posted by aetzbar Listen, this is the first time in history that physical measurement is required in the geometric field. Therefore, I am not surprised at the opposition against me. I also understand the source of this objection. At any time in the future, a respected scientific institution will conduct the experiment I have proposed. At least they knew that there was a heated debate on the subject Thanks
I suggest you spend your time trying to get a "respected scientific institution" to do your experiment.

Whatever the result will be (I am highly confident that it will disprove your assertion about physical squares) will be of no relevance to mathematics, which is about ideals, not physical things.

My recommendation is that your threads be deleted and that you be banned: this is an educational site, and your drivel is very likely to detract from rather add to the education of those in need of help.

July 5th, 2017, 09:48 AM   #27
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Here we go again...

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 Originally Posted by aetzbar est your inner truth well and you will find that there is no such proof.
Here's one Proof: Pi is Constant | Math Wiki | Fandom powered by Wikia

There's more too if you bother to look for them.

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 The ancient Greeks also did not conduct the experiment I presented.
No they didn't, because your experiment is flawed (for reasons I posted). The ones that the Greeks did were not flawed.

Here's an example of the kind of work they were doing. Obviously they didn't have a scripting language to quickly obtain calculations on a computer, but their conclusions were the same.

Pi from Pythagoras

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It doesn't matter whether you use a ruler or an electron microscope; the only difference is the precision by which they can determine the constancy of pi, thereby constraining the limits by which we can be confident that pi is indeed constant.

July 5th, 2017, 10:17 AM   #28
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 Originally Posted by aetzbar est your inner truth well and you will find that there is no such proof
Ah! Mystic BS. That'll convince every rational person. One wonders why the creationists haven't tried that approach.

July 5th, 2017, 10:36 AM   #29
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 Originally Posted by Benit13 It doesn't matter whether you use a ruler or an electron microscope; the only difference is the precision by which they can determine the constancy of pi, thereby constraining the limits by which we can be confident that pi is indeed constant.
I disagree.

The uncertainty of the results of an experiment to confirm the constancy of $\pi$ does not affect the confidence that $\pi$ is a constant.

The uncertainty relates to the uncertain process of physical measurement. No physical experiment says anything about mathematics, which deals with non-physical ideas.

 July 5th, 2017, 11:14 AM #30 Banned Camp   Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Equality and inequality Logically, equality can not be proved On the other hand, it is possible to prove inequality. Therefore, there is no proof of a single number of pie

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