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July 18th, 2019, 02:26 AM   #1
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How to solve the equation ?
$\displaystyle f(x)=\sqrt{f(x^2 )}$ .
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How to solve the equation ?
$\displaystyle f(x)=\sqrt{f(x^2 )}$ .
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1) If $\displaystyle f(x)\in \mathbb R$ , then we get the equation $\displaystyle f(x)=|f(x)|$ and so we get an identity $\displaystyle f(x)=f(x)$ for $\displaystyle f(x)\geq 0$ and $\displaystyle f(x)=0$ for $\displaystyle f(x)<0$.
2) If $\displaystyle f(x)\in \mathbb C$ with $\displaystyle Re(f(x))\neq 0)$ and $\displaystyle Im(f(x))\neq 0$ , then we get the equation $\displaystyle f(x)=f(x)\cdot (-1)^{\bigg[\frac{1}{2}-arctg \bigg(\frac{Im(f(x)}{\pi\cdot Re(f(x))}\bigg)\bigg]}$ because $\displaystyle -1=e^{i\pi}$ where $\displaystyle i^2=-1$ and $\displaystyle \bigg[\frac{1}{2}-arctg \bigg(\frac{Im(f(x)}{\pi\cdot Re(f(x))}\bigg)\bigg]$ is the integer part of $\displaystyle \frac{1}{2}-arctg \bigg(\frac{Im(f(x)}{\pi\cdot Re(f(x))}\bigg)$.

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Thousands of apologies!The reasoning above is for $\displaystyle f(x)=\sqrt{(f(x))^2}$ and no for $\displaystyle f(x)=\sqrt{f(x^2 )}$.Thousands of apologies!

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1) If $\displaystyle f(x)\in \mathbb R$, then we get the equation $\displaystyle f(x)=|f(x)|$
Why? That doesn't seem to be implied.
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Why? That doesn't seem to be implied.
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Thousands of apologies! The reasoning above is for $\displaystyle f(x)=\sqrt{(f(x))^2}$ and no for $\displaystyle f(x)=\sqrt{f(x^2)}$. Thousands of apologies! Thank you very much for the correction!

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How to solve the equation ?
$\displaystyle f(x)=\sqrt{f(x^2 )}$ .
Hello,

Did not You want to write $\displaystyle f(x)=\sqrt{(f(x))^2}$?If not, then it depends on the expression of the function $\displaystyle f(x)$.For exemple , if
$\displaystyle f(x)=2x+3$ , then the equation $\displaystyle 2x+3=\sqrt{2x^2+3}$ has the solution $\displaystyle x=\sqrt6-3$.
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I think the problem is to find the set of functions $\displaystyle f(x)$ such that the equation is satisfied either $\displaystyle \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$ or $\displaystyle \forall x \in \mathbb{C}$. Correct?
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Let's assume that the function is from $\mathbb{R}$ to $\mathbb{R}$.

As $f(0)$ is 0 or 1, one can combine either of those possibilities with a definition of $f(x)$ for other values of $x$. For example, $f(x) = 0$ or $f(x) = |x|^r$, where $r$ is a real number.
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Let's assume that the function is from $\mathbb{R}$ to $\mathbb{R}$.

As $f(0)$ is 0 or 1, one can combine either of those possibilities with a definition of $f(x)$ for other values of $x$. For example, $f(x) = 0$ or $f(x) = |x|^r$, where $r$ is a real number.
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Correct, but if You want to solve the proposed equation as a functional equation, then I think that $\displaystyle f(x)=|x|^c$ is valid $\displaystyle \forall x,c \in \mathbb C$ with except $\displaystyle x=0$ and $\displaystyle c=0$ at the same time or $\displaystyle x\in \bigg[ -\frac{1}{5},0 \bigg)\cup \bigg(0,+\frac{1}{5} \bigg]$. Correct? Thank you very much!

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