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 June 22nd, 2014, 10:33 AM #1 Senior Member   Joined: Nov 2013 From: Germany Posts: 179 Thanks: 1 Math Focus: Number Theory Universe is gaining mass=energy while expanding?! Actual mass of the Universe approximation: Schwarzschild Solution: M_u= T_u *C³/G = 8,70 * 10^52 kg Kerr Solution: M_u = T_U* C³/2G = 1,74 * 10^53 kg C = Speed of Light G = Gravitational Constant T_U:= Age Universe 13,7 billion years in seconds Out of this follows that our Universe is gaining mass while ageing and expanding or the natural constants C³/G or C³/2G are variable! Last edited by M_B_S; June 22nd, 2014 at 10:37 AM.
 June 22nd, 2014, 06:02 PM #2 Math Team   Joined: Dec 2013 From: Colombia Posts: 7,137 Thanks: 2381 Math Focus: Mainly analysis and algebra That equation obviously gives that result. Whether it's an equation that makes any sense or not, I couldn't say. If you are talking about experimental results, I'd look at more than two results and consider the confidence ranges involved.
June 22nd, 2014, 11:38 PM   #3
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 Originally Posted by v8archie That equation obviously gives that result. Whether it's an equation that makes any sense or not, I couldn't say. If you are talking about experimental results, I'd look at more than two results and consider the confidence ranges involved.
Thanks for checking the math!

Whould you agree that this is an mathematical proof based on the Schwarzschild and Kerr solution of Einstein Equations that we are living in a Black=White hole?

The aproximation is relativ equal to others:

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http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0810/0810.1629.pdf

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.1035v1.pdf

Observable universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thus, volume (4/3 π r3) equals 3.58×10^80 m3 and mass of ordinary matter equals density (4.08×10^−28 kg/m3) times volume (3.58×10^80 m3) or 1.46×10^53 kg.

http://vixra.org/pdf/1103.0096v2.pdf
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T_U the age of the Universe could be approximate := 1/H_o where H_0 is the Hubble constant

So we have : M_u = C^3/G*H_0 (Schwarzschild) or M_u M_u = C^3/2G*H_0 (Kerr)

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 June 23rd, 2014, 01:47 AM #4 Senior Member   Joined: Nov 2013 From: Germany Posts: 179 Thanks: 1 Math Focus: Number Theory We are living in a Black Hole Multiverse! http://xxx.lanl.gov/pdf/astro-ph/0606448v2.pdf Concerning the instantaneous mass and the extent of an expanding universe ******************* So I proofed Nikodem Poplawskis Thesis correct : Every Black Hole Contains a New Universe Website of Dr. Nikodem Poplawski Every Black Hole Contains a New Universe | Inside Science http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-hole_cosmology http://www.sciencepubco.com/index.ph...view/2765/1192 Our Black Hole = Universe is sucking mass so it expands in time Out of this follows that we are living in a Black Hole Multiverse (BHM) M_B_S Last edited by M_B_S; June 23rd, 2014 at 02:01 AM.
June 23rd, 2014, 02:38 AM   #5
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 Originally Posted by M_B_S Thanks for checking the math! Whould you agree that this is an mathematical proof based on the Schwarzschild and Kerr solution of Einstein Equations that we are living in a Black=White hole?
No. The only thing the above says is that two different authors calculate two different values for the mass of the Universe, which are only different by a factor of 2 (this is small for astrophysical standards!). I imagine lots of authors have tried to calculate the mass of the universe and they probably get to within some ballpark figure.

That guy's work looks interesting though, I'll give it a read

June 23rd, 2014, 05:13 AM   #6
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 Originally Posted by M_B_S Actual mass of the Universe approximation: Schwarzschild Solution: M_u= T_u *C³/2G = 8,70 * 10^52 kg Kerr Solution: M_u = T_U* C³/G = 1,74 * 10^53 kg C = Speed of Light G = Gravitational Constant T_U:= Age Universe 13,7 billion years in seconds Out of this follows that our Universe is gaining mass while ageing and expanding or the natural constants C³/G or C³/2G are variable!
Living in a Black Hole

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1312.0340.pdf

Living in a Low Density Black Hole, Non-Expanding Universe – Perhaps
a Reflecting Universe
Bernard McBryan
December 3, 2013

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 June 23rd, 2014, 06:29 AM #7 Global Moderator     Joined: Nov 2006 From: UTC -5 Posts: 16,046 Thanks: 937 Math Focus: Number theory, computational mathematics, combinatorics, FOM, symbolic logic, TCS, algorithms I expect you're misinterpreting the meaning of an event horizon in your formulas.
June 23rd, 2014, 08:46 AM   #8
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 Originally Posted by CRGreathouse I expect you're misinterpreting the meaning of an event horizon in your formulas.
Why?

Event Horizons r:=

r_K BH with maximum rotating Speed C = GM/C^2

r_S BH = 2GM/C^2

So with r= T_u*C you can calculate M_u as done.

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