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October 2nd, 2018, 08:51 AM   #11
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As per you comment about space 99% empty, virtual particle density in space may be 10^94 gm/cm^3.
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As per you comment about space 99% empty, virtual particle density in space may be 10^94 gm/cm^3.
As you say it may be

But then again it may not.

How long do virtual particles last?

What % of a second is that?

What occupies the space for the rest of that second?
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The density is pretty much constant. These two values make the greatest anomaly in physics theory, since the experimental value (as for dark energy, dark matter and ordinary matter combined) is only about 10^-28 gm/cm^3.
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I'm sorry that was not the question.

Further the statement that the density is constant effectively says there is a constant

10^94/ 6*10^23 =~ 10^ 70 moles per millilitres of something in space.

How do you support that?

BTW there are other ways to hide variables.
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Yeah, in my day we spelt them with an e.
I know it's been dropped sometime in the last 50 years or so.

Have you tried spelt on your guy?
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The Planck density equals c^5/((h-bar)G^2). As you see. it is the [only] density made of fundamental physical constants.

Moles are chemical units. Moles per milliliter pales in comparison to Planck density, but it is interesting you put it that way.
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The Planck density equals c^5/((h-bar)G^2). As you see. it is the [only] density made of fundamental physical constants.

Moles are chemical units. Moles per milliliter pales in comparison to Planck density, but it is interesting you put it that way.
Well thank you for that clarification.

You do realise that 'Planck mass' is a meaningless quantity, not possessed by any known particle, fundamental or otherwise.

Therefore anything derived from it has the same visceral quality.

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The Planck density is a logical and simple consequence of the universal radiative constants h, c and G.

Is theoretical physics meaningless, like dark energy, dark mass, the Higgs boson and hundreds of other respected constructs? How many originally putative particles, like the neutrino, have since been found in the lab?

It's like asking to prove on paper that electrons, real particles in themselves, exist. A rule of reasonability does exist, however.
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