October 2nd, 2018, 09:51 AM  #11 
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As per you comment about space 99% empty, virtual particle density in space may be 10^94 gm/cm^3.

October 2nd, 2018, 10:05 AM  #12 
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October 2nd, 2018, 11:54 AM  #13 
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October 3rd, 2018, 10:19 AM  #14 
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The density is pretty much constant. These two values make the greatest anomaly in physics theory, since the experimental value (as for dark energy, dark matter and ordinary matter combined) is only about 10^28 gm/cm^3.

October 3rd, 2018, 10:30 AM  #15 
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I'm sorry that was not the question. Further the statement that the density is constant effectively says there is a constant 10^94/ 6*10^23 =~ 10^ 70 moles per millilitres of something in space. How do you support that? BTW there are other ways to hide variables. 
October 3rd, 2018, 11:58 AM  #16 
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October 3rd, 2018, 12:18 PM  #17 
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Yeah, in my day we spelt them with an e. I know it's been dropped sometime in the last 50 years or so. Have you tried spelt on your guy? 
October 4th, 2018, 10:06 AM  #18 
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The Planck density equals c^5/((hbar)G^2). As you see. it is the [only] density made of fundamental physical constants. Moles are chemical units. Moles per milliliter pales in comparison to Planck density, but it is interesting you put it that way. 
October 4th, 2018, 10:15 AM  #19  
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You do realise that 'Planck mass' is a meaningless quantity, not possessed by any known particle, fundamental or otherwise. Therefore anything derived from it has the same visceral quality. Last edited by skipjack; October 5th, 2018 at 01:21 AM.  
October 4th, 2018, 09:19 PM  #20 
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The Planck density is a logical and simple consequence of the universal radiative constants h, c and G. Is theoretical physics meaningless, like dark energy, dark mass, the Higgs boson and hundreds of other respected constructs? How many originally putative particles, like the neutrino, have since been found in the lab? It's like asking to prove on paper that electrons, real particles in themselves, exist. A rule of reasonability does exist, however. 

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