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December 8th, 2017, 10:27 AM   #21
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 Originally Posted by JeffM1 If A is false, then either B is false (meaning the putative person being discussed was not born) or not B is false ( meaning that person was born). There is no contradiction in asserting B or not B. "Tom was born or Tom was not born" is a necessarily true statement. There is a contradiction in asserting B and not B. If you murdered your grandfather when he was two, then you must have been born (in order to do the deed) AND not have been born (because then you lacked a father or mother). If you did not murder your grandfather, you could have been born (if you are a real person) OR not born (if you are not a real person). There is no paradox. There are merely restrictions on what can be done with a wormhole if such things even physically exist.
What do you mean by "real person"?

 December 8th, 2017, 10:41 AM #22 Senior Member   Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 243 Thanks: 2 Question to think by medice: You affect on your father gentics what will become to you? Your father is married with a another woman, so what, you don't have a brother? Is disable father born disable son?! Is handicap father will born handicap son?! Is bad father born a bad son? Why you don't speak on genetic? Why not get more furhter. change your father genetic and you will be blonde with brown eyes? Why not? A little common sense. Last edited by shaharhada; December 8th, 2017 at 10:43 AM.
December 8th, 2017, 10:46 AM   #23
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 Originally Posted by Neonus What do you mean by "real person"?
A real person has a physical existence in the physical world. They are born.

A fictional person exists only in the human mind. They are imagined, not born.

December 9th, 2017, 11:10 AM   #24
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 Originally Posted by shaharhada Question to think by medice: You affect on your father gentics what will become to you? Your father is married with a another woman, so what, you don't have a brother? Is disable father born disable son?! Is handicap father will born handicap son?! Is bad father born a bad son? Why you don't speak on genetic? Why not get more furhter. change your father genetic and you will be blonde with brown eyes? Why not? A little common sense.
I am unable to understand what you want to express. Please rephrase your post for better understanding.

December 9th, 2017, 11:10 AM   #25
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 Originally Posted by JeffM1 A real person has a physical existence in the physical world. They are born. A fictional person exists only in the human mind. They are imagined, not born.
You mean the person that is not born due to the lack of grandfather?

December 9th, 2017, 11:45 AM   #26
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 Originally Posted by Neonus You mean the person that is not born due to the lack of grandfather?
Do you truly not know the meaning of "fictional"? Are you saying that you know of an actual person who went back in time and murdered his grandfather? What is your evidence for that?

December 9th, 2017, 12:14 PM   #27
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 Originally Posted by JeffM1 Do you truly not know the meaning of "fictional"? Are you saying that you know of an actual person who went back in time and murdered his grandfather? What is your evidence for that?
Maybe I misunderstood you, I was confused how a "fictional" person got into the hypothesis.

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