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February 20th, 2013, 11:40 AM   #1
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ppm and powers?

Hi would anyone be able to give me a bit of advice?

How do you convert very large powers of 10 into percentages? I do not fancy wring 5.20 x 10^21 out by hand and working backwards from that. Surely there is a perfectly simple solution but i can not see it. I was thinking along the lines of division being the opposite of multiplication, could I divide 10^21 by itself to cancel out?

The information I am given to work with involves a total of number of something times 10 to a power 25 of molecules m^-3 of atmosphere, and something times 10 to power of 21 as a one of the gasses. I am then asked to work out the concentration of this gas in parts per million.

Would be really grateful if someone could point me in the right direction.
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February 20th, 2013, 01:28 PM   #2
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Re: ppm and powers?

Give a more precise description.
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February 20th, 2013, 02:13 PM   #3
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Re: ppm and powers?

I am worried to put the exact question because last time I did that someone gave the full answer. I can not learn by people doing my work for me, I need to work it out for myself, I am just looking for a nudge or two in the right direction.

it comes down to this really, a calculator will not give you such a large power in digits, one could write the thing out but to write 10 to the power of 21 is an inefficient way to do things. I can only think that something by 10 to the power of 21 needs to be simplified somehow, in order to get it as a fraction of a percentage. Once it is at a fraction over 100% I know what to do. Getting a number n times 10 to the power of 21 in a format I can present it as a fraction over 100 is the name of the game.
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February 21st, 2013, 01:53 PM   #4
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Re: ppm and powers?

Since the question is very fuzzy, the only thing I can suggest is to take the large power of ten outside the work on the calculator and put it back in at the end.
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blimey! if the question is too fuzzy for you guys I don't know how I'm gonna do it..

the question relates to molecules of gas in the atmosphere. The information given is that there are for example 2.4 x 10^25 of molecules m^-3 in the atmosphere. I am then given a number of one of the gasses which has a concentration of n.n X 10^21. I am then asked what the concentration of gas is in parts per million.

Now once I have a percentage I can work out parts per million. The thing I am struggling with is how to get those massive powers into percentages.

I seem to have passed all other questions on the test. I could leave this one and still get a decent mark but that's not the point. I must understand this.
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blimey! if the question is too fuzzy for you guys I don't know how I'm gonna do it..

the question relates to molecules of gas in the atmosphere. The information given is that there are for example 2.4 x 10^25 of molecules m^-3 in the atmosphere. I am then given a number of one of the gasses which has a concentration of n.n X 10^21. I am then asked what the concentration of gas is in parts per million.

Now once I have a percentage I can work out parts per million. The thing I am struggling with is how to get those massive powers into percentages.

I seem to have passed all other questions on the test. I could leave this one and still get a decent mark but that's not the point. I must understand this.
I should also say at this time I am thinking of division - since 10^25 is 10 multiplied 25 times, surely i can divide it out?. But not entirely sure how to go about it.
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February 24th, 2013, 12:45 PM   #7
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I am guessing you want to divide a.10^21 by b.10^25. In that case you have (a/b)10^-4. Can you handle that?
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