October 17th, 2016, 09:56 PM  #1 
Senior Member Joined: May 2015 From: Arlington, VA Posts: 270 Thanks: 23 Math Focus: Number theory  Subatomic dark matter
Could dark matter reside within subatomic particles? Neutrinos, Higgs particles, Planck black holes (Wheeler's "geons") and even quarks and gluons are my possible candidates for such confinement.

October 18th, 2016, 01:26 AM  #2  
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No one knows what dark matter is. Everything known (baryons) has been considered already. You could spend a lifetime studying it. I made a post a while back about it: Quote:
 
October 18th, 2016, 04:08 AM  #3 
Senior Member Joined: May 2015 From: Arlington, VA Posts: 270 Thanks: 23 Math Focus: Number theory 
Thank you for your overview, Benit. What is novel about my speculation is that significant dark matter could be hidden in the subatomic realm, within us and our constituents, rather than just the outer reaches of galaxies and beyond. Besides light as a source, we now have gravitational waves, neutrinos and Higgs particles. The last I read about MOND (around 2010) was interesting and inventive, but inconclusive. 
October 18th, 2016, 04:22 AM  #4  
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There are suggestions for dark matter candidates in the subatomic realm. One possibility is that neutrinos have mass or that dark matter is contained in WIMPs (Weakly Interacting Massive Particles). Neutrino mass is a touchy subject and no good candidate for a WIMP has been discovered. Dan  
October 18th, 2016, 06:09 AM  #5  
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November 2nd, 2016, 10:19 PM  #6 
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I'm always intrigued by what is already unknown, and I would like to know if this hypothesis has already been considered: If we suppose our universe it's a finite big bubble, due to well known "gravity" there must be a very big surface tension. Considering that at the border of this bubble the only think we will find (after we left the "dust" zone... are rays (light, gamma radiation etc...) 2 only (for me of course !) hypotesis can be formulated:  ray will left the bubble, so we have a loss of energy, entropy etc...  ray will NOT left the blubble, so we have a closed system and ray beahaviour is like a bullet shot in the sky... Since Newton, talking about light, fails and the fact that entropy seems "sort" everithink, the most probable case is: "Mr Scotty, we are loosing energy !" This loss of energy build a sort of field that can or cannot interact woth other universe in relation to their relative distance... And we again have to make the hypotesis that an hypermassive black hole tossed out all that universe... and so on, ... but at the end, we don't know how far ($2^{{10}^{10}}$) there will be a "final" moving at light speed surface... where the tension will be the littlest force possible... ... and since we know also Einstein fails saying that nothing can fly faster than light... all that is probably wrong... We have to let our kid's dream free to let us be proud of them... 
November 3rd, 2016, 01:27 PM  #7 
Senior Member Joined: May 2015 From: Arlington, VA Posts: 270 Thanks: 23 Math Focus: Number theory 
No information can travel faster than the speed of light. Check out Einstein's field equations, e.g. surface tension, as they apply to models of the universe (or a black hole). Radiation of light usually increases entropy. A light ray is substantially different from a bullet, but the latter could be applied to some of Einstein's Gedanken (thought) experiments. Please explain how your post relates to the topic at hand. I encourage you to keep on studying your life's work, though. You'll eventually need graduate education, established mentors and selfpersistence. If you love physics and show an aptitude there, I suggest you consider undergraduate level courses in the field. I guess that you would first benefit from a basic physics course in high school or equivalently, online. I request you find a thread that has more to do with your specific interests. Last edited by Loren; November 3rd, 2016 at 01:32 PM. 
November 3rd, 2016, 10:08 PM  #8 
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Loren... Loren... Loren.... What we know now is little more than nothing... Also Einstain, as Newton will be for our kids just one that discover (just) a better approximated model of the truth, what luckily we are very far from. At the mkoment we are not able to prove an information can or cannot move faster than light, but inflation theory, if true, suggest it can. And it's just question to understand that the information is (or can be) pushed out by an hypermassive black hole at hyperlight speed in form of what we call "a new universe". The information cannot goes out from the bubble, till it will not collide with it's targhet. "Collision" means the two surfaces of the two bubbles get in contact... If you really wanna make research, pls, be open to everyone, also to who you think is not at your level... (...you think...) Ciao Stefano Last edited by complicatemodulus; November 3rd, 2016 at 10:11 PM. 
November 4th, 2016, 02:57 AM  #9  
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If you really want to know about dark matter and dark energy, read the literature. There's plenty to read!  
November 4th, 2016, 03:15 AM  #10  
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I'm of couse not directly involved in that filed so for sure at CERN you'll find more or many answers to your problems... but I'm still missconfindent fullish energy sucker will really find somethink of very usefull. I still believe we have now the theoretical instruments to skip for several years the "fabrication" of stupid megamachine like laser fuser etc... I very hope we will be able to create and controll fusion in our hands in a very short time, for sure before it's too "carbon/atomic" later... Thanks ciao Stefano  

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