September 14th, 2018, 06:52 AM  #1 
Member Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0  Number of primes
How do computers evaluate the number of primes below a given integer?

September 14th, 2018, 07:52 AM  #2 
Math Team Joined: Oct 2011 From: Ottawa Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,413 Thanks: 1024 
How? The way it has been instructed by the programmer!

September 14th, 2018, 08:42 AM  #3  
Math Team Joined: May 2013 From: The Astral plane Posts: 2,156 Thanks: 878 Math Focus: Wibbly wobbly timeywimey stuff.  Quote:
Dan  
September 15th, 2018, 07:19 AM  #5  
Math Team Joined: Oct 2011 From: Ottawa Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,413 Thanks: 1024  Quote:
https://primes.utm.edu/howmany.html  
November 4th, 2018, 03:39 AM  #6 
Senior Member Joined: Aug 2008 From: Blacksburg VA USA Posts: 346 Thanks: 6 Math Focus: primes of course  another estimate
Based on work by Kristyan (see Talk page of the link given by Garth) , his estimate of ( N/lnN + N/lnN^2) seems even better...

November 4th, 2018, 09:41 AM  #7 
Senior Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,306 Thanks: 706  How could an inexact approximation be better than the exact number? Of course asymptotics are important and valuable, but for accuracy you can't beat exactness. Right?

November 4th, 2018, 09:53 AM  #8  
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Or are you asking why we care at all about approximative forms like N/log(N), when we have the exact form? That's a good question  
November 4th, 2018, 10:52 AM  #9 
Senior Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,306 Thanks: 706  I hadn't read the rest of the thread. I thought they were comparing asymptotics to exact (but slow) algorithms. But if they're just comparing different asymptotic approximations, that makes more sense.

November 4th, 2018, 12:27 PM  #10 
Global Moderator Joined: Oct 2008 From: London, Ontario, Canada  The Forest City Posts: 7,935 Thanks: 1129 Math Focus: Elementary mathematics and beyond 
It's worth mentioning that approximations can practically handle much larger numbers and become more accurate as N increases in size.


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