My Math Forum  

Go Back   My Math Forum > College Math Forum > Number Theory

Number Theory Number Theory Math Forum


Thanks Tree27Thanks
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
March 22nd, 2017, 09:16 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
From: Australia

Posts: 1,170
Thanks: 383

Math Focus: Yet to find out.
Not sure where your last post went. However, we live in exciting times for sure.
Joppy is online now  
 
March 22nd, 2017, 09:22 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
romsek's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2015
From: CA

Posts: 1,238
Thanks: 637

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joppy View Post
Not sure where your last post went. However, we live in exciting times for sure.
I deleted it for being off topic babble ...
romsek is offline  
March 22nd, 2017, 09:31 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2016
From: Australia

Posts: 1,170
Thanks: 383

Math Focus: Yet to find out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by romsek View Post
I deleted it for being off topic babble ...
Most threads tend to turn out that way if the OP doesn't respond...

Babble babble...

Mm yeah, babble.
Joppy is online now  
March 23rd, 2017, 04:57 AM   #14
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2016
From: -

Posts: 44
Thanks: 7

I think this two ways: Either you have the correct proof of the conjecture (which I really doubt, not even a great mathematician like Erdos could solve it during his life) and you dont dare to share it to the community, which implies scruitinity over your work and criticism by the rest of scientists, so in some sense you are avoiding that by not publishing it to a journal; or secondly, you think you have proved it but there is an error in the proof, which is the most likely option in this case. I dont want to say your work is useless, probably it has good ideas and approaches to the problem, but the experience in these cases always tells the proof contains an error somewhere.

In conclusion, if you really think your proof is correct, dont be afraid to share it with the scientific community by publication in a journal, thats the best thing you can do.
Thanks from topsquark and Joppy
nietzsche is offline  
March 23rd, 2017, 05:00 AM   #15
Math Team
 
Joined: Dec 2013
From: Colombia

Posts: 6,778
Thanks: 2195

Math Focus: Mainly analysis and algebra
I think most academics would say that it is best to get the proof out there with your name on it. You then have a public demonstration of priority and the opportunity for peer review.
v8archie is online now  
March 23rd, 2017, 05:17 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2016
From: USA

Posts: 632
Thanks: 257

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mariga View Post
Hey guys.. I have the proof to the Conjecture. Is it safe to submit it here? I have had it since 2012 but have trust issues. Also I am quite sure about it.
No. You claim to have a proof, which is an entirely different thing. I can claim to be Emperor of the Solar System, but no one will obey my decrees.

You are in effect asking us to trust you, not vice versa.

I agree with Archie. To prove that your alleged proof is valid, you must publish it somewhere so that the allegation can be assessed. Moreover publication in an open forum is a reasonable way to stake a claim to discovery. Many of the disputes about priority have involved initially private discussions among a small number of people.
Thanks from topsquark
JeffM1 is offline  
March 23rd, 2017, 11:32 AM   #17
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2012

Posts: 951
Thanks: 23

Go ArXiv, make a registration, then try to submit, but you've to be very carefull since they require PHD stile presentation...

Good luck,
Ciao
Stefano
complicatemodulus is offline  
March 23rd, 2017, 12:23 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
romsek's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2015
From: CA

Posts: 1,238
Thanks: 637

The standard method of validly time stamping something is to snail mail it to yourself in a sealed envelope and the time stamp given by the post office will be accepted as proof.

I suppose you could also have a notary public attest to the fact that you placed a document in a sealed envelope at a given time and date. That will be pricier.

Another method could be to encrypt the document and post the encrypted file to a public site. That should get you a valid timestamp w/o anyone becoming aware of its contents.

Once timestamped, you can then post the doc to public forums for analysis.

Last edited by skipjack; April 1st, 2017 at 09:17 AM.
romsek is offline  
March 23rd, 2017, 05:51 PM   #19
Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2017
From: Bay Area, US

Posts: 5
Thanks: 0

Math Focus: 3x+1
I would say posting it here is a good plan since it has a trusted time/date stamp to it. It also has a community that understands and cares about math. Although I doubt it's correct since it's been five years and nobody has come up with the idea you have. It may have interesting insight into the problem though which will add to the seriously massive amount of data on this conjecture.
JwClaassen is offline  
March 30th, 2017, 10:57 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2017
From: .

Posts: 208
Thanks: 2

Math Focus: Number theory
I have decided to post it.
Mariga is offline  
Reply

  My Math Forum > College Math Forum > Number Theory

Tags
collatz, conjecture, proof



Search tags for this page
Click on a term to search for related topics.
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
On the Collatz Conjecture JwClaassen Number Theory 0 March 18th, 2017 08:47 AM
collatz conjecture isaac Number Theory 6 March 15th, 2016 01:12 AM
About Collatz conjecture vlagluz Number Theory 10 November 5th, 2014 12:27 AM
The marvellous proof of the collatz conjecture lwgula Number Theory 2 October 30th, 2014 02:02 PM
Collatz conjecture & More (Please Help) Aika Number Theory 6 April 29th, 2012 06:34 AM





Copyright © 2017 My Math Forum. All rights reserved.