June 5th, 2012, 06:20 PM  #1 
Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 86 Thanks: 0  Counting Problem
Consider the equation x+y+z+w=n, where n is a positive integer greater or equal to 4. A positive and integer solution is a set (x,y,z,w) of positive integers that satisfies the equation for a given n. For example, for n=10 one solution to x+y+z+w=10 would be (1,2,3,4), since 1+2+3+4=10. a) Determine the number of positive and integer solutions for n=10. b) Find a general formula that counts the number of whole and integer solutions for x+y+z+w=n. Note: Solutions (2, 2, 2, 4), (2, 2, 4, 2),(2, 4, 2, 2) and (4, 2, 2, 2) for n=10 are each considered different and separate solutions. 
June 5th, 2012, 07:14 PM  #2 
Member Joined: May 2012 From: Chennai,India Posts: 67 Thanks: 0  Re: Counting Problem
so. its finding the no of partitions of n as 4 integers.. it can be split like partitions of n as sum of two numbers.. and finding the partitions of those 2 numbers as sum of two numbers...

June 5th, 2012, 10:47 PM  #3 
Member Joined: May 2012 From: Chennai,India Posts: 67 Thanks: 0  Re: Counting Problem
this can be proved by multinomial theorem... For a+b+c+d = n, the no. of solutions including 0 is need to eliminate those terms in the expansion of that have powers of all a,b,c,d 
June 6th, 2012, 03:14 AM  #4  
Math Team Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,579 Thanks: 22  Re: Counting Problem Quote:
 
June 6th, 2012, 05:10 AM  #5 
Member Joined: May 2012 From: Chennai,India Posts: 67 Thanks: 0  Re: Counting Problem
The number of coefficients in the expansion of is (n+m1 n). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinomial_theorem So for , it is (n+3 n) ==> 
June 6th, 2012, 05:40 AM  #6  
Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 86 Thanks: 0  Re: Counting Problem Quote:
((n3)(n2)(n1))/6 I'm completely clueless as to the reasoning behind it, though, and politely ask for a baby explanation lol.  
June 7th, 2012, 03:32 PM  #7  
Math Team Joined: Dec 2006 From: Lexington, MA Posts: 3,267 Thanks: 407  Re: Counting Problem Hello, Jakarta! Quote:
Place 10 objects in a row, inserting a space between them. [color=beige]. . [/color] Select 3 of the 9 spaces and insert "dividers". Quote:
Following the solution in part (a), place objects in a row (with spaces). Select 3 of the spaces and insert "dividers".  
June 7th, 2012, 09:05 PM  #8  
Member Joined: May 2012 Posts: 86 Thanks: 0  Re: Counting Problem Quote:
Following the solution in part (a), place objects in a row (with spaces). Select 3 of the spaces and insert "dividers". [/quote:3oncju6n] Wow, that is extremely smart and clear. Thanks!  

Tags 
counting, problem 
Thread Tools  
Display Modes  

Similar Threads  
Thread  Thread Starter  Forum  Replies  Last Post 
Counting problem  superconduct  Algebra  2  January 7th, 2014 10:01 AM 
Counting problem  zelmac  Algebra  0  February 14th, 2013 05:29 AM 
counting problem  scream  Applied Math  2  February 21st, 2012 11:50 AM 
Counting problem  kec11494  Applied Math  1  December 20th, 2010 08:44 PM 
Counting Problem  julian21  Applied Math  0  April 27th, 2010 09:48 AM 