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July 11th, 2011, 03:36 PM   #1
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As you might have heard, this whole social networking thing is really taking off. Apparently, Facebook is the #2 site on the web.
Now the #1 site (Google) has released their version of social networking (called "Google+" or "Google Plus" plus.google.com), and this one has all the appearances of being a success. (editing...)

---------------------------------------- Here's what I sent out on Facebook ----------------------------------------------------
In short, Google+ is why I am quitting Facebook.


For those who haven't heard ... well, just visit plus.google.com


Here's more detail on why Google+ is a better fit for me.


1. Indirect communication/social networking:
I would guess that most of you, most of the time, ignore most of what I put on Facebook. Of my 500 (?) friends, only about 3 of you want to hear about math, 5 care about frisbee, 100 live in Houston, 100 live in Arkansas, 300 I'll never see again, 480 have no sense of humor... the point is that most people don't care about, aren't affected by, or just plain don't want to see most of what I'm communicating! Rather than try to get you all to love math, I can simply create a group ("Circle", as they are called) on Google+ and when I have a math rant/joke/etc, I can just send it to the few who actually want to see it. Crazy, right?

When I'm visiting Houston, instead of sending "Hey, who wants to go to Katz' Deli with me" to all of Facebook, I can just send it to my "Houston circle.... on Google+, of course. Need to find a drummer to cover for me? No need to congest the already-muddied newsfeed of someone who lives across an ocean (or worse, one of the 10-15 of you that I've NEVER MET!)... I can just send it to the drummers.

This principal also works in the other direction, as most of the time, I don't care about (or want to see) what y'all put on Facebook! It just ends up being a big waste of time, and I usually make inappropriate comments on your (plural) pictures and status updates. No longer!

(To elaborate a bit more, part of the problem with Facebook is that your "security" options - for who sees your status updates - are "Friends", "Friends of Friends", and "Everyone". Your ENTIRE friends list is the minimum amount of people you can indirectly communicate with, whereas on Google+, you can send to as few - or as many - groups as you like)

2. Direct communication/emails:
We all email. In addition, a lot of us send more direct communication via Facebook message or some mechanism related to Facebook "groups". I don't need to emphasize how much of a pain in the butt the Facebook option is, but I'll just point of a few issues for those who don't know.

You can't send a Facebook message to two "non-friends" and to any amount of "friends" at the same time. Either that, or it's really complicated and I can't figure it out. Or I just can't figure it out.
IN ANY CASE, it's a pain. With Google+, if your intended recipients don't happen to use Google+, they just get the message in an email. The one downside is that (at least as far as I can tell), for the near future, it will be a bit of a trick to populate your contacts list if you don't have everyone's email addresses.

The Google+ "Circles" feature is a better solution for me in this department also. Managing contacts lists/groups on gmail and yahoo (which I've done for 5 and 13 years, respectively) is annoying. Suffice it to say that after trying the Google+ Circles interface for five minutes, I converted. Whence this Note.

3. Video Chat:
I use video chat for work (online math tutoring) and for personal/family/social interaction. Those of you math students who have tested various virtual classrooms with me will appreciate my desire for a better option. Google+ offers this with "Hangouts". Basically, up to TEN people can video chat together, at once.
So it's not hard to see how that might appeal to a guy like me.

Most of the personal video chat that I do is when I have my son with me. Since time with Pearson is at a premium in this season of life, I'd rather not have my family waiting by the phone to hear that it's their turn to "skype" with us! How great would it be to just see everyone at ONCE?!?! Yes, the answer is "great".
4. (There are other reasons why I like Google+, but they don't really have much to do with Facebook)

So I'm quitting Facebook. I'm not sure when. If you don't think I'll be able to contact/find you after the switch and this bothers you, let me know


Also, I'm pretty sure that I can invite people liberally, so let me know if you want to check it out.


Charles


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I had a pretty substantial post here on MMF originally, but I cleaned it up a bit and added bullet-points! Maybe I could get a little Latexification

Here's a quick plug for the math forum, though:
(I'll use [color=#00BF00]skipjack[/color] as an example).
I don't know [color=#00BF00]skipjack[/color]. I have 0.0001 personal interaction with [color=#00BF00]skipjack[/color]. Even so, there are times when I would like to communicate with [color=#00BF00]skipjack[/color]. Most of these times, I would also like to communicate with other people. If it's EVERYONE, I can just make a thread/topic. But in any case, I want it to be fast and easy. The messaging on MMF is neither.

And while I would like to see improvements in the PM system (200-message inbox ... come ON!), that's not why I'm writing this or why I'm switching to Google+. The bottom line is that I found a solution and it could work for you/us/whomever. (Note: for those who covet privacy, my suggestion would be a lot more interesting if we had MMF email addresses rather than... well, whatever it is)

By design, only the EXACT set of people that you want seeing certain information sees that information, and the sets ("circles") are super-easy to change.


Not that I expect my "Math (Forums)" Circle on Google+ to be hugely populated, but I would like to be in more efficient communication with as many of you as are willing.

Charles
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Re: Google+

skipjack clearly has reasons to be that secretive. The only facts we know about skipjack is being barely mathematically smarter than mattpi.
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July 12th, 2011, 02:18 AM   #3
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skipjack clearly has reasons to be that secretive. The only facts we know about skipjack is being barely mathematically smarter than mattpi.
haha johnny, i LOVE you


as for the google+ project, i think it will be amazing and i am looking forward to its release in public...
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Re: Google+

I was just wondering...
Do you, active users and moderators use some sort of instant messaging programs? It would be cool that we connect on that way too.
Here is my info, feel free to add me:
skype: filip_dujmusic
facebook: Profile
google+: don't have it yet. by the way when is this thing going public?
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Re: Google+

Almost all of the interaction that I have had with users and moderators on this forum has been through the Private Messaging system on MMF. Although I have given a few private video lessons via skype... can't remember that guy's name...

I added you on FB, not that I'll be using it much anymore
I'm not sure when G+ is going public. All of my nerdy/tech friends already have it.
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I added you on FB, not that I'll be using it much anymore
I'm not sure when G+ is going public. All of my nerdy/tech friends already have it.
Oh I see, I got notification. Great.
How is it possible that they already have g+ account? Are they in beta-test team or something?
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Re: Google+

I have one, too! As does mattpi (we are "friends" on G+)!!

You can have people invite you if they have your email address.
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I have one, too! As does mattpi (we are "friends" on G+)!!

You can have people invite you if they have your email address.
Yes I have g-mail. Can you or somebody add me please, here is my mail: filipd.oss@[the domain that hosts Google+
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Re: Google+

This feature is not available for your account
You must be over a certain age to use this feature.


Sad does anyone know where I can change my age (cause I totally don't know when/where I should have entered this)
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Maybe you supplied your age when you signed-up for Gmail ??!
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