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 April 19th, 2014, 06:07 PM #11 Math Team   Joined: Dec 2013 From: Colombia Posts: 7,659 Thanks: 2635 Math Focus: Mainly analysis and algebra Exactly half the numbers are odd. What a surprise! Exactly half of all numbers are odd. The even numbers sum to the sum of verses and the odds to the sum of chapters. Given that the even and odd numbers are each the sum of a chapter and verse, this is hardly surprising. If even sum to the sum of the verses, the odd have to sum to the sum of chapters. The ratio of two numbers has to be some value. Why not one near the golden ratio? Why shouldn't the Quran have been constructed with numerology in mind? The statements above show that the patterns you've found are far from miraculous, even if they were created by design.
April 19th, 2014, 11:41 PM   #12
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 Originally Posted by CRGreathouse This is not mathematics, it is numerology. We don't allow discussion of numerology here, sorry! I suggest searching Google or Bing for a more appropriate forum. Patterns are very easy to find when you're looking for them. None of these patterns seem exceptional/unusual to me; I'd expect to find similar patterns in many other books.
can you show me something like this from Another book???

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 None of these patterns seem exceptional/unusual to me;
so for you this is nothing special

2. sum of all odd = som of all chapters
sum of all even = som of all verses

3. golden ratio between non-repetetive and repetetive numbers wich is 1.618

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 Originally Posted by v8archie Exactly half the numbers are odd. What a surprise! Exactly half of all numbers are odd. The even numbers sum to the sum of verses and the odds to the sum of chapters. Given that the even and odd numbers are each the sum of a chapter and verse, this is hardly surprising. If even sum to the sum of the verses, the odd have to sum to the sum of chapters. The ratio of two numbers has to be some value. Why not one near the golden ratio? Why shouldn't the Quran have been constructed with numerology in mind? The statements above show that the patterns you've found are far from miraculous, even if they were created by design.

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 Exactly half the numbers are odd. What a surprise!
the verse numbers decide how many odd and even numbers you will have in the total column not chapter numbers.

but this is not difficult to make, this is just intresting fact, but the problem comes when you add Point 2(odd+even=chapter+verses) and 3(golden ratio)

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 the patterns you've found are far from miraculous, even if they were created by design
can you change anything in the table above to get same results?

and dont forget this also

Point 4. Symetric organisation of the book

(Sequence number of Chapter)-(Verses)
=

4 combination:

odd-odd
odd-even
even-even
even
odd

example first chapter Fatiha has sequence number 1 and 7 verses,
then it is in ODD-ODD section

Homogenus are ODD-ODD,
EVEN-EVEN

Non-homogenus are odd-even, even-odd

It is also
constructed simmetrically

Now we divide the book in half,
first part of quran 57 chapters, and second part quran 57 chapters

even
this is also symetrical between homogenus and non-homogenus

Chapters of which the number of verses are greater than sequence number

Chapters of which the number of verses are smaller than sequence number

Sequence Numbers Set and Number of Verse Set

example: Chapter/Surah with sequence nr 3, nr of ayats/verses 3 can be found at seequence nr 108 and 110

the simetry would be destroyed if you add only 1 verse , or remove 1 verse from it. do you see now why it is impossible for humans to create something like this?

 April 20th, 2014, 03:41 AM #14 Senior Member     Joined: Jul 2010 From: St. Augustine, FL., U.S.A.'s oldest city Posts: 12,211 Thanks: 521 Math Focus: Calculus/ODEs As you were told, this forum is for the discussion of mathematics, not pseudo-sciences. Thread closed. Note to the OP...if you try to resurrect the discussion by beginning another thread on this or similar topics, you will be considered by me to be a spammer. Thanks from agentredlum, Denis and Olinguito

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