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 November 24th, 2017, 09:06 AM #1 Newbie   Joined: Apr 2014 From: Edmonton Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 A question about primes Hi, I have a question about primes here. I was just wondering if any whole number plus one half could be used to find primes. for example, 1.5,2.5,3.5... The way I see it, you shouldn't round up or down from these numbers and I was wondering if anybody could establish for me the logic behind rounding up, say, from 1.5 to 2.
 November 24th, 2017, 09:16 AM #2 Global Moderator     Joined: Oct 2008 From: London, Ontario, Canada - The Forest City Posts: 7,842 Thanks: 1068 Math Focus: Elementary mathematics and beyond Once you have a candidate how would you test it for primality?
November 24th, 2017, 05:59 PM   #3
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 Originally Posted by Pegleggedninja Hi, I have a question about primes here. I was just wondering if any whole number plus one half could be used to find primes. for example, 1.5,2.5,3.5... The way I see it, you shouldn't round up or down from these numbers and I was wondering if anybody could establish for me the logic behind rounding up, say, from 1.5 to 2.
What in the world does this have to do with prime numbers? When thinking about prime numbers, we are only dealing with whole numbers.

If you round up 3.5 you get 4, which is NOT prime.

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 November 24th, 2017, 09:33 PM #4 Global Moderator   Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,299 Thanks: 1688 That wouldn't stop one from asking whether, for some prime $p$ (such as 131), $q = \sqrt{4p-163}$ is an integer, and $p + q + 1$ another prime.
 December 15th, 2017, 10:52 PM #5 Newbie   Joined: Apr 2014 From: Edmonton Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Okay... Seeing as how there has been no established logic about whether or not to round up or down from 1.5,2.5,3.5...etc. I think we should establish instead, logic pertaining to what makes something truly prime. If no logic stands as to why one would round up from 1.5, rather than down, we must say we can do neither. If we can do neither logically, we must never round from a .5 number above 1. I believe if we cannot logically decide how to round (up or down). Then we must therefore factor these numbers into the definition of what makes something truly prime because they will somehow alter our definition of a whole number by being somewhat of a subclass of wholes that may be used to calculate primes as well. When considering how to calculate these "new" primes we should disregard 0.5 in our calculations. Logic dictates we round down from 0.5 instead of up. The following groupings show that on the number line 0.5 should be rounded down because 0 is the absence of quantity and this should be considered when rounding from 0.5. 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5 versus 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 1.0 As you can see above 0.5 does indeed group nicely on the left, closer to 0. Anything above 0.5 should be rounded to one. This means that 0.5 cannot be used in the calculation of any prime numbers. ~Pegleggedninja
 December 16th, 2017, 08:05 AM #6 Senior Member   Joined: May 2016 From: USA Posts: 1,084 Thanks: 446 What do you mean by "prime"? For most, primes relate to whole numbers, not rational numbers like 1.5. So as I said before, what are you talking about? Rounding is about approximation. It is true that 1.5 is just as close to 1 as it is to 2. Therefore you can logically use either 1 or 2 as an approximation: your error will be the same no matter which you do.
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 Originally Posted by Pegleggedninja This means that 0.5 cannot be used in the calculation of any prime numbers.
At last something I agree with.

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