September 25th, 2018, 12:30 PM  #21  
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You seriously are going to attack the use of "infinity" in mathematics, and then go on define a point as something of INFINITESIMAL length? Are you serious right now? Really?  
September 25th, 2018, 12:33 PM  #22  
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Take a point according to your definition. It has an infinitesimal radius d. So what is 1/d? What does that equal according to you?  
September 25th, 2018, 12:42 PM  #23 
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1/d where d is an infinitesimal is an expression that tends to but never actually reaches infinity. So at best we could write 1/d ~ oo (because actual infinity does not exist).

September 25th, 2018, 01:12 PM  #24  
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So in classical geometry that everybody is doing, we have circles of a definite radius, say 2 or 3 or 10. In your geometry, you say that al of that is very confusing, and you instead replace it with circles whose radius aren't like numbers anymore, but expressions that tend to infinity but not reach it? How are you going to draw such a circle with a 'radius that tends to infinity and not reach it'? How are you going to show a picture of it in textbooks? Say what you want about our flawed math system, but when we talk about a circle with radius 1, we can actually DRAW it.  
September 25th, 2018, 01:14 PM  #25 
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Also, let y = 1/d be your number that tends to infinty but not reaches it. What is y+1? Is y+1>y? Is y+1=y? 
September 25th, 2018, 01:14 PM  #26 
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September 25th, 2018, 01:22 PM  #27 
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Here is a fun one: If x is a real number such that its integer part is even, then we set f(x) = 0. If x is a real number such that its integer part is odd, we set f(x) = 1. Clearly, we have like f(3.14)=1, since the integer part is 3, which is odd. Or we have like f(6.4) = 0 since the integer part is 6, which is even. So, clearly the integer part of d is 0, so f(d) = 0. What is f(1/d)? Or what is sin(1/d)? Is it positive or negative? 0? 
September 25th, 2018, 01:34 PM  #28  
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Sin(1/d) is also likewise dependant. Last edited by Devans99; September 25th, 2018 at 01:41 PM.  
September 25th, 2018, 01:40 PM  #29 
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September 25th, 2018, 01:41 PM  #30 
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Anyway is 1/d bigger than every number? Is (1/d) + 1 > (1/d)? 

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