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April 1st, 2017, 12:27 PM   #1
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King Arthur wishes to construct a new shield by attaching square pieces with sizes 10×10 and 8×8 so that the corner of the smaller square is placed on the diagonal of the larger square and 3 units away from its center. King Arthur wants the smaller square to be sloped so that the area of overlap between the two squares is as small as possible since this will give a shield of the largest possible area. What is the area of King Arthur’s new shield? (Give a full explanation for your answer.)

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I'm showing the overlap area is independent of the rotation angle for angles

$-\pi/4 \leq \theta \leq \pi/4$

Surprised by it myself but that's what it's looking like.
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There are two diagrams that would be relevant. One is given above.
In the other, PQ intersects the square ABCD.
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There are two diagrams that would be relevant. One is given above.
In the other, PQ intersects the square ABCD.
this diagram doesn't show the corner of the smaller square along the diagonal of the larger.

One bit of ambiguity in the OP is that it doesn't specify whether the smaller corner is pinned to 3 in the nw direction or the se direction of the center of the larger.

I assumed the se direction.
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this diagram doesn't show the corner of the smaller square along the diagonal of the larger.
Oh crap! So you're saying that CRAP should be a straight line?
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This diagram doesn't show the corner of the smaller square along the diagonal of the larger.
That was intentional, as the problem description doesn't require it.
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King Arthur wishes to construct a new shield by attaching square pieces with sizes 10×10 and 8×8 so that the corner of the smaller square is placed on the diagonal of the larger square and 3 units away from its center. King Arthur wants the smaller square to be sloped so that the area of overlap between the two squares is as small as possible since this will give a shield of the largest possible area. What is the area of King Arthur’s new shield? (Give a full explanation for your answer.)
I'm curious then what your interpretation of the bolded text is

there are admittedly 4 interpretations as to where this pivot point might be but they will all end up having equivalent answers as they are all the same problem but in a rotated coordinate system.

Do you have mathematica? I'd love a 2nd pair of eyes on this sheet.
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You're right. I was interrupted when I first read the question, having got as far as just making the larger square. A few days later, I came across the unfinished diagram and decided to finish it, but I misread the description.
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The area of the quadrilateral outlined in black is

$\dfrac{59}{2} - 15 \sqrt{2}$

which is independent of $\theta$
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It's easy to see that a tilt angle of magnitude up to 45° doesn't affect the area of overlap.

Hence the minimum overlap area is (5 - 3/√2)² (square units).
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