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 September 29th, 2015, 07:53 AM #11 Banned Camp   Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 41 I did not say my approach is better. I said that Im looking for better. I did not even finish what I was presenting that you start vomiting googlized things that have nothing to do with my approach. Anyway you will never change. Always the same pattern. You are deaf!
 September 30th, 2015, 10:54 AM #12 Math Team   Joined: Jan 2015 From: Alabama Posts: 3,264 Thanks: 902 If you want people to help you it is probably not a good idea to chastise them for trying to clarify!
October 1st, 2015, 03:30 AM   #13
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 Originally Posted by Country Boy If you want people to help you it is probably not a good idea to chastise them for trying to clarify!
no. Im sure that you did not.
I compared my problem to TSP problem.
It is my approach.
Charles came and boom! he starts talking about the complexity and others algorithms. He did not read what I was talking about he just see the word TSP and like robot he start vomiting something anyone can find using google.
What the hell you are talking about?
Assuming that this problem is solved on polynomial time using some algorithm. Do I have the right to propose new approach? yes or non? the answer is yes.
Many problems where solved using hundred methods. So why not reading my approach first. Then trying to see where it will lead. What is new and what is not? etc....
Im not here as alumni and Charles as teacher.
I told him not to answer anymore to my questions.
Because his only goal is to show you that he knows more than you.
He could not intervene in some forums where the level is high. Not only he could not but he will not. Ne is ashamed to be seen as ignorant. hence he will never progress in the right direction.
I can say that Im ignorant. I did it. I recognized my mistakes. Charles? NEVER. Do not talk about apologizing.
Anyway I recognize that he is helpful to many.
He is in some way a pillar in this forum and it is not good in the long run for the forum to be build on one pillar.

October 1st, 2015, 03:31 PM   #14
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 Originally Posted by mobel Did you read the thread since the beginning? no. I`m sure that you did not.
You seem to be sure about many things.

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 Originally Posted by mobel Charles came and boom! he starts talking about the complexity and others algorithms. He did not read what I was talking about he just see the word TSP and like robot he start vomiting something anyone can find using google.
I certainly did read everything you wrote in this thread. (It's quite short, I'm not sure why you'd question that Country Boy and I had read it.) And I'm not sure how a person not familiar with the problem would have known that there is a distinction (which you did not mention!) between the hard TSP and the relatively easy Euclidean TSP, with or without Google. I thought I was bringing useful information to the discussion. Perhaps mathman, Country Boy, and any lurkers could comment on whether they found my posts here useful/interesting/etc.

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 Originally Posted by mobel Many problems where solved using hundred methods. So why not reading my approach first. Then trying to see where it will lead. What is new and what is not? etc....
I think it would be very hard to know if your method was new or not if you reject looking at any other methods for solving the problem.

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 Originally Posted by mobel Because his only goal is to show you that he knows more than you.
Not at all, I hope to learn about interesting math, do interesting math, and perhaps even share some knowledge. I have no desire to influence others' opinions of me -- why would I?

October 1st, 2015, 04:08 PM   #15
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 Originally Posted by CRGreathouse Yes, I do. I mentioned that there is a PTAS for Euclidean TSP and you said that you were looking for a "better solution". So I asked if you knew about the existing solutions -- otherwise, how could you know if something would be better?
First of all : it is not up to me to tell that my solution is better either I know what was done or what was not done.
Second : In your reaction you are still having the same behavior. You know what is the best before even I finished presenting my approach.
Third : You know what. Stop posting any answer to my posts. I do not need your answers. I will wait for others to come with comments. I know your comments before you post. Change your pattern and then maybe we could trade points of views. Otherwise there always be a waste of time for me.

So you could lock this thread.

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