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September 19th, 2019, 12:04 PM  #1 
Senior Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,412 Thanks: 755  I saw a counter clerk use a calculator for 7 + 6
I've heard all the horror stories about the education system but I never actually saw this in person till today. I called up a bagel shop this morning and ordered a baker's dozen, 7 poppy and 6 sesame. I got there and she rang me up: One baker's dozen plus 2 extra for a total of 15. I said no, I only ordered 7 poppy and 6 sesame. She looked at me like I was from Mars. I asked, "What is 6 plus 7?" Without a moment's hesitation she grabbed her calculator and punched in the numbers and said, "Oh, we gave you two extra." It's not her fault. Nobody is born knowing 6 + 7. It's the fault of the schools. And as a voter and taxpayer, in the end it's my fault. I should be down there picketing the school board till they start teaching the kids basic arithmetic. Oh that's "rote learning," it's taboo these days dontcha know. The thing is, this is a bagel shop. They serve up 13count baker's dozens every day of the week. And this morning, my order of 7 poppy and 6 sesame threw the whole place into a tizzy. Apparently someone in the back thought I wanted 15 and the girl thought I wanted 15. We're just so doomed. We talk about STEM and the brain jobs of the future, but this is what the schools turn out. I can't wait for the robot apocalypse. It'll be better than what we've got now. Grrrrrrr. Thanks for listening. Last edited by Maschke; September 19th, 2019 at 12:14 PM. 
September 19th, 2019, 12:25 PM  #2 
Senior Member Joined: Jun 2019 From: USA Posts: 310 Thanks: 162 
Wow. I thought it was bad this morning when two of my students in a class of ten questioned my answer to a problem because they didn't know that $(a)^2(b)^2$ was the same as $(ab)^2$. They have passed vector calculus and differential equations courses. 
September 19th, 2019, 01:54 PM  #3 
Member Joined: Oct 2018 From: USA Posts: 99 Thanks: 72 Math Focus: Algebraic Geometry 
Reminds me of a time when I was tutoring a group of about 6 in detention during high school. They were moaning and groaning about wanting to leave (as to be expected) and one of them asked if I had the time. I pointed at the analog clock behind me and they responded "I can't read it." None of these 6 students could read an analog clock so I spent the rest of the time teaching them how to read analog clocks, which unfortunately relies on the fact that 5x12=60 which was a foreign concept. I'm somewhat fresh from the American education system, I'm only 20. They threw us on TI84's from 6th grade to at least 10th. Luckily I started dualenrollment math at grade 11 and my teacher didn't allow the use of calculators so I was saved. I feel massive pity to those that had to work those calculators all the way until graduation. Trying to teach any algebraic structure was lost on a lot of kids due to this. Learning lines and solutions of lines in 8th grade was rocket science compared to the calculator button mashing they had been doing, so much of it just didn't stick. Not to mention the reliance on calculators for survival, very VERY unfortunate that this is what we've come to. 
September 19th, 2019, 04:22 PM  #4 
Math Team Joined: May 2013 From: The Astral plane Posts: 2,304 Thanks: 961 Math Focus: Wibbly wobbly timeywimey stuff. 
Well, for my part I can't figure out 7 + 6 either. I don't have enough fingers. Dan 
September 19th, 2019, 11:14 PM  #5 
Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: UK Posts: 965 Thanks: 342 
Someone from our accounts department came down regarding some crap and couldn't work out 3x20.

September 20th, 2019, 02:21 AM  #6 
Senior Member Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 884 Thanks: 340 
I'd see myself doing the same. Honestly, I have no idea what 7+6 is or what 3x20 is. No need to know since I got a calculator or wolframalpha.

September 20th, 2019, 03:53 AM  #7 
Senior Member Joined: Apr 2014 From: UK Posts: 965 Thanks: 342 
Sod waiting for someone to dig out their phone or grab a calculator while I'm waiting around, I've got Beer to drink!

September 20th, 2019, 06:29 AM  #8 
Senior Member Joined: Dec 2015 From: somewhere Posts: 734 Thanks: 98 
Jada jada thppt . 
September 20th, 2019, 09:45 AM  #9 
Senior Member Joined: Mar 2015 From: Universe 2.71828i3.14159 Posts: 132 Thanks: 49 Math Focus: Area of Circle 
I wouldn't blame someone if they genuinely forgot 6+7, for a justifiable reason (very long workday, shitty customer, and etc.) I once miscalculated 300*1.7. 
September 20th, 2019, 10:17 AM  #10 
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