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January 29th, 2018, 07:53 PM   #1
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Is the key answer wrong?

(ex) What is the approximate combined loudness in decibels of a garbage disposal and a washing machine, each with a sound level of 80 decibels?

my attempt

I use the formula. D = 10*log(I1/I2) where D represents the loudness of sound, I1 the intensity of source 1 and I2 the intensity of source 2.

The two sounds have a combined loudness of 160 decibels.

So, D=10*log(160) = 22 decibels.

But the answer key says 83 decibels. Do you think it's wrong? Thanks for your help.
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January 29th, 2018, 07:58 PM   #2
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$80dB + 80dB = 10\log_{10}(2) +80 dB = 83dB$
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$80dB + 80dB = 10\log_{10}(2) +80 dB = 83dB$
romsek, why did you change the first 80dB to the log value, but not the second 80dB?

Can you explain that? Thanks again.
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romsek, why did you change the first 80dB to the log value, but not the second 80dB?

Can you explain that? Thanks again.
ok... signals in linear units will add.

$A = 80dB = 10^8 A_0$

$A + A = 2 \times 10^8 A_0$

now we convert to dB

$\begin{align*}
&10 \log\left(\dfrac{2 \times 10^8 A_0}{A_0}\right) = \\ \\

&10 \log(2\times 10^8) = 10(\log(2) + 8) = 80 + 10\log(2)

\end{align*}$
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January 30th, 2018, 11:47 PM   #5
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Thank you very much, romsek.
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