July 1st, 2017, 07:41 AM  #1 
Newbie Joined: Jun 2017 From: North Texas Posts: 19 Thanks: 1  Definition of Division
Help me out with this intuition. (124 + 104 + 84 + 64 + 44 + 24) / (62 + 52 + 42 + 32 + 22 + 12) Why is the answer 2 and not 12. If division is multiplication of the reciprocal and we pair a number from the left with one from the right that should get us 2 + 2 + 2 +2 +2 +2 ? 124 X 1/62 + 104 x 1/52 ... 
July 1st, 2017, 09:09 AM  #2 
Senior Member Joined: Jun 2015 From: England Posts: 675 Thanks: 194 
because $\displaystyle \frac{{\left( {124 + 104 + 84 + 64 + 44 + 24} \right)}}{{\left( {62 + 52 + 42 + 32 + 22 + 12} \right)}} = \frac{{444}}{{222}}$ The rules are that we evaluate the contents of brackets before anything else. So we must add up the contents of the brackets before we can perform the division. 
July 1st, 2017, 09:12 AM  #3  
Newbie Joined: Jun 2017 From: North Texas Posts: 19 Thanks: 1  Quote:
if the brackets where not there then pairing is legitimate?  
July 1st, 2017, 09:19 AM  #4 
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July 1st, 2017, 09:22 AM  #5  
Senior Member Joined: Jun 2015 From: England Posts: 675 Thanks: 194  Quote:
The rules for order of precedence are Brackets Order or powers Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction. Often shortened to BODMAS https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...04.TI89T4X7jU0 In your case these rules would make the computation 124 + 104 + 84 + 64 + 44 + 0.38 + 52 + 42 + 32 + 22 + 12 = 580.38 Last edited by studiot; July 1st, 2017 at 09:46 AM.  
July 1st, 2017, 09:35 AM  #6 
Newbie Joined: Jun 2017 From: North Texas Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 
PEMDAS BODMAS must be a UK thing I guess my idea of using the distribution over addition from multiplication by turning the division into multiplication because dividing is the same as multiplying by the reciprocal does not allow me to do so? Cause you can pair by distribution eg. A(B+C) = AB + AC A + B + C + D / E + F + G + H = A + B + C + D X 1/e + 1/f + 1/g + 1/h = A/E + A/F +A/G + A/H Last edited by Rujaxso; July 1st, 2017 at 09:39 AM. 
July 1st, 2017, 09:56 AM  #7 
Senior Member Joined: Jun 2015 From: England Posts: 675 Thanks: 194 
The rules allow you to write a sum of ratios $\displaystyle \frac{A}{E} + \frac{B}{F} + \frac{C}{G} + \frac{D}{H} = \frac{{BCD + ACD + ABD + ABC}}{{EFGH}}$ I was going to ask you to see if you could write your expression using the rules and I see you had the same idea, but have not yet got it quite right. I assume you have mistakenly meant to write these and not all As as above. You can also include brackets, but it doesn't add anything new. $\displaystyle \left( {\frac{A}{E}} \right) + \left( {\frac{B}{F}} \right) + \left( {\frac{C}{G}} \right) + \left( {\frac{D}{H}} \right)$ 
July 1st, 2017, 09:56 AM  #8 
Newbie Joined: Jun 2017 From: North Texas Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 
I need to start typing my stuff in using Latex or whatever you call it. =p So if you plug the original numbers you get 12? Last edited by Rujaxso; July 1st, 2017 at 10:08 AM. 
July 1st, 2017, 10:09 AM  #9  
Senior Member Joined: May 2016 From: USA Posts: 802 Thanks: 318  Quote:
It is not a mathematical principle, but a convention of mathematical notation to allow communication in an unambiguous way. $(124 + 104 + 84 + 64 + 44 + 24)\ /\ (62 + 52 + 42 + 32 + 22 + 12) =\\ \dfrac{124 + 104 + 84 + 64 + 44 + 24}{62 + 52 + 42 + 32 + 22 + 12} = \dfrac{444}{222} = 2.$ What is enclosed in parentheses (brackets} represents a single number that must be evaluated before doing anything else because that is how mathematicians have agreed to communicate with each other. You could call a table a glimpf and understand what you mean, but people would not understand what you were talking about at all. Language is a social construct and so is mathematical notation. If you wanted to say $\dfrac{124}{62} + \dfrac{104}{52} + \dfrac{84}{42} + \dfrac{64}{32} + \dfrac{44}{22} + \dfrac{24}{12} =\\ 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 12$ in inline format you would write it as $124/62 + 104/52 + 84/42 + 64/32 + 44/22 + 24/12 =\\ 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 12$ because , in PEMDAS notation, D for division precedes A for addition. You do all divisions before you do any additions. Last edited by JeffM1; July 1st, 2017 at 10:11 AM.  
July 1st, 2017, 10:16 AM  #10 
Math Team Joined: Jul 2013 From: काठमाडौं, नेपाल Posts: 842 Thanks: 60 Math Focus: सामान्य गणित 
$\displaystyle \frac{A+B+C+D}{E+F+G+H}\neq \frac{A}{E}+\frac{B}{F}+\frac{C}{G}+\frac{D}{H}$


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