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June 2nd, 2016, 12:48 PM  #1 
Newbie Joined: Jun 2016 From: Toronto Posts: 2 Thanks: 2  Problem solving help
John and Jane walk for 15 minutes at a constant speed. At the 15 minute mark of their walk, John runs back to their starting point to get something he forgot and then runs back to rejoin Jane. While he's gone, Jane walks twice as slow as usual. Once John and Jane are back together they continue at their regular speed and arrive at their destination 6 minutes later than usual. How many times faster than their normal walking speed did John run?

June 2nd, 2016, 02:31 PM  #2 
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Let their walking speed be "v" miles per hour and let the John run at "n" times their regular speed. In 15 minutes, 1/4 of an hour, they will have walked v/4 miles. While John runs back at nv miles per hour, Jane walks on at v/2 miles per hour. If she walks at that speed for T hours, she will have walked an additional Tv/2 miles for a total of v/4+ Tv/2= (v/2)(1/2+ T) miles. In that time, John will have run back v/4 miles, requiring (v/4)/(nv)= 1/(4n) hours. He then has T 1/(4n) hours to catch up with Jane. In that time, he will have run (T 1/(4n))(nv)= Tnv v/4 miles which must equal Jane's (v/2)(1/2+ T) miles: Tnv 1/4= (v/2)(1/2+ T).

June 2nd, 2016, 02:38 PM  #3 
Global Moderator Joined: Oct 2008 From: London, Ontario, Canada  The Forest City Posts: 7,814 Thanks: 1046 Math Focus: Elementary mathematics and beyond 
Hint: how long did Jane walk at a reduced speed?

June 2nd, 2016, 02:40 PM  #4 
Math Team Joined: Jul 2011 From: Texas Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 1405 
let $r$ = normal walking speed in distance units per minute $T$ = normal time in minutes to complete their walk $t$ = time period in minutes John was gone $T+6$ = delayed time in minutes to complete the walk $(T+6)  15  t$ = time to finish the walk after John catches up for Jane ... $r \cdot 15 + \dfrac{r}{2} \cdot t + r[(T+6)  15  t] = rT$ solving for $t$ ... $t = 12$ minutes Jon is gone. During that 12 minutes, Jane covers an additional distance of $6r$ walking forward at halfspeed. while John is gone, he covers a distance of $15r$ backwards and $15r+6r$ forwards for a total distance of $36r$ in 12 minutes ... a rate of $3r$, three times as fast. 
June 3rd, 2016, 06:16 AM  #5 
Newbie Joined: Jun 2016 From: Toronto Posts: 2 Thanks: 2  Grade level?
Thanks for the clear explanation! What would be an appropriate grade level for a problem like this?

June 3rd, 2016, 07:03 AM  #6  
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The other reason is that skeeter's explanation implies a good deal of mental analysis not shown. There are two unknown rates, four unknown distances, and three unknown times. A good student will follow skeeter's analysis, but may despair of replicating it. I am writing on an IPad and can't use a real computer, but I am going to think about how you might show a child how to think his or her way through this problem in a way that would make them say "Hey, I could do that."  
June 3rd, 2016, 07:35 AM  #7 
Global Moderator Joined: Oct 2008 From: London, Ontario, Canada  The Forest City Posts: 7,814 Thanks: 1046 Math Focus: Elementary mathematics and beyond 
As the walk took 6 minutes longer than usual to complete Jane must have walked at half speed for 12 minutes. That means that John covered a distance that would require 15 + 15 + 6 = 36 minutes walking at regular speed in 12 minutes, so John runs at 3 times normal walking speed. 
June 3rd, 2016, 07:46 AM  #8 
Math Team Joined: Dec 2013 From: Colombia Posts: 7,313 Thanks: 2447 Math Focus: Mainly analysis and algebra 
One way to easily see Skeeter's approach is to draw a speed/time graph. The area outlined in red is Jane's trip. The shaded area is the normal trip. The distance travelled on a speed/time graph is the area underneath the graph. So the two areas must be equal. This means that the area of A is equal to the area of B. Thus $\frac12rt = 6r$, giving us $t=12$. We can then see that John ran the forst rectangle twice (to home and back again) and the second rectangle once or $15r + 15r + 12\cdot \frac12r = 36r$. And he did it in those $12$ minutes. 
June 3rd, 2016, 10:42 AM  #9  
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June 3rd, 2016, 06:13 PM  #10 
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