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 April 25th, 2010, 01:06 PM #1 Member   Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 New Type of Infinity Irrational Numbers such of Pi is a number that we didn't create it comes from nature and its irrational and in the decimal idea it never comes to an end, could this show there is no such as smallest, since Pi shows that the decimals in nature are never-ending I can see this irrationality shows that each point in space-time must be Infinitley small, and thus there is no smallest object as in a smallest size that you can have, as you peer further and view smaller points through a microscope, you'll see existence no matter how small you go, thus no matter how small you go there is no end to smaller objects, so you see if your shrunk yourself to an existence infinitely smaller which is possible according to this idea, the universe would appear infinite in size, so how do we know we aren't one of these existence forms that's infinitely small compared to an average sized object within the universe, does this say the universe is Infinite, not in relative to our size within it, but in relative to infinitely small forms of existence, so This is a new infinity it exists within a finite plain yet still exists, unless this Infinity already exists.
 April 25th, 2010, 01:40 PM #2 Global Moderator   Joined: May 2007 Posts: 6,820 Thanks: 722 Re: New Type of Infinity Pi is a mathematical concept, not a physical one. There is a mathematical notion called the continuum. However the question of whether or not space-time is a continuum is an open question for physicists.
 April 25th, 2010, 01:46 PM #3 Math Team   Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,780 Thanks: 361 Re: New Type of Infinity I believe, you can't (ab)use maths to generalize about the world the way you do. As far as I know, the universe expands at the speed of light. Something that is infinite large can't expand; the possibility it has to expand makes the original size definable, so finite. Are you sure you are on the correct forum with the question? i'd rather go to a phylosophy forum if I were you. Hoempa edit: Mathman gave about the same comment I think.
April 25th, 2010, 01:49 PM   #4
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 Originally Posted by Hoempa I believe, you can't (ab)use maths to generalize about the world the way you do. As far as I know, the universe expands at the speed of light. Something that is infinite large can't expand; the possibility it has to expand makes the original size definable, so finite. Are you sure you are on the correct forum with the question? i'd rather go to a phylosophy forum if I were you. Hoempa
but you cant escape irrationalism been existing and not physically as the other comment's suggests, its a measurement of size, the size of the universe is irrational even though its finite, so there is no smallest object, thus the universe is an irrational zone, and to an Infinitley smaller form of existence the universe appears infinite, yet to us it appears finite, yet both forms of existence exist in the same plain of space and of time, its strange is it not????

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 Originally Posted by deanmullen10 ... so you see if your shrunk yourself to an existence infinitely smaller which is possible according to this idea, the universe would ...
1) You cannot "shrink yourself"; you can HUMBLE yourself, but that's more of a philosophical discussion.
2) "this idea" does not change what was said in 1).
...but keep searching!

Have you studied infinitesimals? That might be of interest to you.

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