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July 27th, 2010, 06:58 PM   #1
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4.7% rturn monthly Is this to good to be true?

Folks I stumbled upon this site. They claim to have a office in Texas
1270 Champion Circle, Carrollton, TX ,75006
Any one near by can check them out. Thanks.
liquidityxxxxxxx dotcom
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July 27th, 2010, 07:03 PM   #2
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Re: 4.7% rturn monthly Is this to good to be true?

Y don't you go check out the location yourself, Isn't that much safer to do?
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Re: 4.7% rturn monthly Is this to good to be true?

Well to be quite honest, I did stop by LGs other location but that was their dublin office, in the middle of last month or so. The funny thing is, and you wouldn't believe one of their reps actually had the nerve to ask me if I'm sure I dont want to hold off on increasing my portfo-size because of my income level. So i cudn't upgrade.The dam nerve! Well anyway, besides that I strolled in with my daughter and they seemed pretty organized (except for the shortage on app forms and dependent forms too). Customer service wasn't the worse even though finding their place could have used a bit more signs. Anytime you get the chance, just take a drive down there though, I was only there cuz I needed to add a dependent to my account because they apparently had some issues with their system that prevented me from doing it online. So once again, if anyone is nearby Carrollton or knows of a location there then please let me know whats up for safety reasons. Thanks
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Re: 4.7% rturn monthly Is this to good to be true?

To address the title question, 4.78% return every 30 days (76% annually) as claimed on the website, 4.78% monthly return (75% annually) as in their example, or 4.7% monthly return (73% annually) as in your question is, indeed, too good to be true. I would expect this to be a pyramid scheme.

Indeed, looking at the conditions on the website, it's fairly clear that the restrictions on access to your money would support a pyramid scheme pretty well. Assuming investors try to leave their principal intact, they would need to double their number of investors roughly every 15 months to stay afloat. (Longer if they reinvest some of the interest rather than spending it; shorter if they spend principal in addition to the interest.) If their claim to have 3000 investors is true, then they could stay around for some time if they were able to beguile enough others into investing: 20 years, for example, if they were able to have everyone in the US invest at their claimed average deposit of $68,000.

More likely, they're spending almost all of the monies received and/or socking it away in countries without extradition, in which case the timer is months rather than years.
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Re: 4.7% rturn monthly Is this to good to be true?

Ah, here we go. Their site says:
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Regulated and traded under Federal US trade name Liquidity International, Inc.
The BBB has a record for a business of that name and address:
http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-revi ... x-90006446

It gives the company an F (on a scale of A+ to F).
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Also, Manta estimates that the company has 1-4 employees:
http://www.manta.com/c/mmlv063/liquidity-international
which would fit pretty well with the idea of them being a fly-by-night scam but not well with being an investment firm with $200M under management. (They claim to have 46 US employees.)

Also, they give the same picture of their headquarters on two pages. One claims that it's in Dublin, the other claims it's in Frankfurt. The Dublin address they give is a property for rent
http://www.property.ie/commercial-prope ... n-1/47225/
which doesn't look anything like the property pictured. That picture seems to be of a women's clinic in the University Hospital of Cologne (look at the 3-foot-tall lettering!). Also, the picture clearly shows the cars on the right side of the road... they drive on the left in Ireland.

Also, TESS has no record of Liquidity International, Liquidity Giants, or FTI Finance.
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Re: 4.7% rturn monthly Is this to good to be true?

I see Frederick and Jasmine have the same little dialogue going in My Finance Forum, only as 'Steven and Maggie'. (Also probably as 'Fred and Ginger' over at My Dance Forum, and as 'Siegfried and Roy' at My VegasAct Forum ) Signed up within a couple minutes of each other there, as well.
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Would you look at that...
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Folks ... n+Texas%22
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I'm kinda rooting for ol' Freddy and Jasmine to finally get together over at Match . com, and find true romance in each other's little 'bot arms. Maybe she'll even convince him to get off the bottle and give up his stumbling ways.
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