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May 10th, 2014, 09:40 AM  #1  
Banned Camp Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 34 Thanks: 1  A cirlce inscribed inside a right triangle...
This is a 3part question in my Calculus textbook, one of the challenge problems. I don't even think the part I'm having trouble with even requires calculus, but it's driving me nuts because I can't solve it. Here's the question: Quote:
C \...D ......\ _______\B A Now matter how I set this thing up, I can't algebraically organize AB, AC, BC, and CD in such a way that the previous equation results. Perhaps I lack the foresight? There's no typo here; pretending the triangle in the image was of 3,4,5 proportion gave me CD=2 by other means, as well as in the above equation. I think I'm on to something by assuming it is necessary to utilize the formula for the inradius, $\displaystyle r =\frac{1}{2}(\left  AB \right +\left  AC \right \left  BC \right )$ Can someone do this and explain what they noticed that allowed them to get the answer? Thanks. Last edited by chameleojack; May 10th, 2014 at 09:45 AM.  
May 10th, 2014, 09:50 AM  #2 
Senior Member Joined: Nov 2013 From: Baku Posts: 502 Thanks: 56 Math Focus: Geometry  Solutio....
It is easy. Let touch points be D, E, F. $\displaystyle BC=BD+DC. \; AC=CE+EF. \; AB= AF+FB.$ $\displaystyle And \; BD=BF=x, \; CD=CE=y, \; AE=AF=z.$ Therefore, $\displaystyle \frac{1}{2}(BC+ACAB)=\frac{1}{2}[(x+y)+(z+y)(x+z)]=\frac{1}{2} \cdot 2y = y.$ 
May 10th, 2014, 09:59 AM  #3 
Banned Camp Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 34 Thanks: 1 
aww! of course! isosceles triangles! I'm embarassed. Thanks for the fresh perspective! I was trying to derive the equation from scratch using Areas and Perimeter. Now I can do the calculus bit =j
Last edited by chameleojack; May 10th, 2014 at 10:08 AM. 
May 10th, 2014, 10:13 AM  #4 
Senior Member Joined: Nov 2013 From: Baku Posts: 502 Thanks: 56 Math Focus: Geometry  You should be embarassed more. It has nothing to do with isosceles. The shape does not matter.

May 10th, 2014, 07:43 PM  #5 
Banned Camp Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 34 Thanks: 1 
Hey. Smart guy. Look at the picture! The points of tangency connect a chord that makes an isosceles triangle (that's how I was able to visualize the symmetry). You're bending over backward to make fun of me...and failing...for what? If you're only offering help so you can moan about how stupid the rest of us are, why don't go somewhere else?

May 10th, 2014, 08:08 PM  #6 
Math Team Joined: Dec 2013 From: Colombia Posts: 7,700 Thanks: 2682 Math Focus: Mainly analysis and algebra 
Do you think we could call a halt to this discussion?

May 11th, 2014, 08:29 PM  #7 
Senior Member Joined: Nov 2013 From: Baku Posts: 502 Thanks: 56 Math Focus: Geometry 
I don't moan and I don't mare fun, and I don't care whether you are backward or "forward".


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