October 17th, 2017, 10:32 AM  #1 
Member Joined: Nov 2016 From: Ireland Posts: 84 Thanks: 3  Definite integrals
Hi guys I'm working on these integrals. See this one second from the bottom, with the cos 2x dx? My lecturer has given the answer of $\displaystyle [1/2 \sin 2x] $ I'm thinking this should be $\displaystyle [2/2 \sin 2x] $ Last edited by skipjack; October 17th, 2017 at 01:00 PM. 
October 17th, 2017, 10:36 AM  #2 
Senior Member Joined: Sep 2015 From: USA Posts: 2,531 Thanks: 1390 
Your lecturer is correct.

October 17th, 2017, 11:05 AM  #3 
Member Joined: Nov 2016 From: Ireland Posts: 84 Thanks: 3 
Lol thx Rom  Ok say it was the 2x on it's own = $\displaystyle 2x^1$ Integral $\displaystyle 2x^1$ = $\displaystyle (2x^2)/2$ Right? So what am I missing here? how does the trigonometric function change that? 
October 17th, 2017, 11:36 AM  #4  
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you can't apply polynomial derivative rules to trig functions. Just take the derivative of $\sin(2x)$ vs. $\dfrac 1 2 \sin(2x)$ and see which one gets you $\cos(2x)$  
October 17th, 2017, 12:32 PM  #5 
Member Joined: Nov 2016 From: Ireland Posts: 84 Thanks: 3 
Hmmm I'm a bit of a n00bee with these Rom According to my calculations this is the derivative of: sin(2x) 
October 17th, 2017, 12:55 PM  #6 
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You know that $\sin(2x)$ is the sine of $2x$? It's not $\sin{}$ times $2x$. $\sin{}$ on its own is meaningless. It needs an argument. You'd use the chain rule for that derivative. Last edited by v8archie; October 17th, 2017 at 12:58 PM. 
October 17th, 2017, 01:34 PM  #7 
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Hmm k  I wonder if someone could give me the answers to Roms questions, in a short step format. I seem to have unlearned everything I thought I learned. Sorry guys

October 17th, 2017, 01:53 PM  #8 
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$\dfrac {d}{dx}\left( \sin(2x)\right) = \cos(2x)\cdot (2) = 2 \cos(2x)$ $\dfrac {d}{dx}\left( \dfrac 1 2 \sin(2x)\right) = \dfrac 1 2 \cos(2x) \cdot 2 = \cos(2x)$ soooo $\displaystyle \int \cos(2x)~dx = \dfrac 1 2 \sin(2x)$ 
October 17th, 2017, 03:40 PM  #9 
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If your lecture actually said that the "answer" to this problem is $\displaystyle (1/2)\sin(2x)$ that is incorrect! This is, as you say in the title of this thread, a definite integral so the "answer" is a number, not a function of x! To integrate $\displaystyle \int_{\pi/4}^{\pi/2} \cos(2x) dx$, let $\displaystyle u= 2x$. Then $\displaystyle du= 2dx$ so $\displaystyle dx= \frac{1}{2}du$. When $\displaystyle x= \pi/4$, $\displaystyle u= 2(\pi/4)= \pi/2$ and when $\displaystyle x= \pi/2$ $\displaystyle u= 2(\pi/2)= \pi$. The integral becomes $\displaystyle \frac{1}{2}\int_{\pi/2}^{\pi} \cos(u)du= \left[(1/2) \sin(u)\right]_{\pi/2}^{\pi}= \frac{1}{2}(\sin(\pi) \sin(\pi/2))= \frac{1}{2}(0 1)= \frac{1}{2}$. If you really, as v8archie suggested, were trying to do this as "sin" times "2x", that is very troubling. You should have immediately recognized that "sin" without any "x" is not a function at all! It is just three meaningless letters! Last edited by skipjack; October 18th, 2017 at 11:29 AM. 

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