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 December 31st, 2016, 08:43 AM #1 Newbie   Joined: Dec 2016 From: New Jersey Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Points on a plane Let A1, ..., An and B1,..., Bn be sets of points on a plane. Suppose for all points x, D(x, A1) + D(x, A2) + ... + D(x, An) ≥ D(x, B1) + D(x, B2) + ... + D(x, Bn) , where D(x, y) signifies the distance between x and y. Show that the Ai’s and the Bi’s share the same center of mass. NOTE: A1, An, B1, Bn, A2, B2, Ai, and Bi, are all supposed to have subscripts for the second letters. January 1st, 2017, 06:23 AM #2 Member   Joined: Dec 2016 From: USA Posts: 46 Thanks: 11 Nice problem. I don't have a solution at this point. Can you reveal the source of the problem? Update: I can prove it for the special case where all points lie on the same line. Thanks from Joppy Last edited by quasi; January 1st, 2017 at 06:40 AM. January 1st, 2017, 07:13 AM   #3
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 Originally Posted by quasi Nice problem. I don't have a solution at this point. Can you reveal the source of the problem? Update: I can prove it for the special case where all points lie on the same line.
My teacher gave it to me, so I don't know the source. And I would love to see the special case. January 1st, 2017, 12:30 PM #4 Member   Joined: Dec 2016 From: USA Posts: 46 Thanks: 11 The one-dimensional case is easy and fun -- you should try it. Here's the statement to prove: If $a_1,\ldots ,a_n$ and $b_1,\ldots ,b_n$ are real numbers such that $$|x-a_1|+\cdots +|x-a_n| \ge |x-b_1|+\cdots +|x-b_n|$$ holds for all real numbers x, then $a_1+\cdots +a_n = b_1+\cdots +b_n$. Hint: First choose x to the left of all the $a$'s and $b$'s. The given inequality now simplifies to what statement about the $a$'s and $b$'s? Next choose x to the right of all the $a$'s and $b$'s, and answer the same question. Thanks from rachel1234 Last edited by quasi; January 1st, 2017 at 12:40 PM. January 1st, 2017, 12:35 PM #5 Member   Joined: Dec 2016 From: USA Posts: 46 Thanks: 11 Can I ask what is the level of the math class where you got this problem? January 1st, 2017, 05:04 PM   #6
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 Originally Posted by quasi Can I ask what is the level of the math class where you got this problem?
I'm currently in Calculus AB, but the question wasn't from the class. It was from my math team teacher. She just gave it to us for fun. January 1st, 2017, 05:32 PM #7 Member   Joined: Dec 2016 From: USA Posts: 46 Thanks: 11 Cool. Those are nice problems. January 1st, 2017, 09:44 PM #8 Senior Member   Joined: Sep 2016 From: USA Posts: 670 Thanks: 440 Math Focus: Dynamical systems, analytic function theory, numerics Suppose n = 1. Can you prove it in this case? What does it mean for $A_1,B_1$ to have the same center of mass? Now, assume inductively that it is true whenever $1 \leq n \leq N$. Consider a pair of collections of size $N+1$. If this pair satisfies the hypothesis, then for every $x$ in the plane, the given inequalities hold. Can you think of a "correct" choice for $x$ which allows you to apply the induction hypothesis? January 1st, 2017, 10:25 PM #9 Member   Joined: Dec 2016 From: USA Posts: 46 Thanks: 11 I don't see it. The verification for n = 1 is instant. But I don't see how induction gets you from n = 1 to n = 2. January 2nd, 2017, 06:39 PM   #10
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 Originally Posted by rachel1234 My teacher gave it to me, so I don't know the source. And I would love to see the special case.
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