
Art Art and Architecture Forum  Math in our world, culture, buildings, natural wonders, nature, movies, music 
 LinkBack  Thread Tools  Display Modes 
May 30th, 2013, 03:46 AM  #1 
Newbie Joined: May 2013 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0  Proportions in painting
Hi all, my first time here, I am a painter and I work very intuitively but find much of my spatial issues in my painting reflect classical proportions or other ratios. Sometimes its a bit surprising! In the last few years I have settled on a 240 cm x 290 cm format for my paintings, I wondered if there is anything mathematically significant about the proportions of this? And, I suspect that those here might have interesting things to say about this? Curious, A 
July 8th, 2013, 12:51 PM  #2 
Senior Member Joined: Sep 2012 From: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 764 Thanks: 53  Re: Proportions in painting
The only number that seems to be significant in art, in my opinion, is the golden ratio, which equals approximately 1.618034. In fact, if you take a look at some historical buildings and monuments, you would find that most of them incidentally have the golden ratio included in them! As for your proportions, it is purely a matter of opinion if it looks good to you, or not. 
July 8th, 2013, 02:48 PM  #3  
Global Moderator Joined: Nov 2006 From: UTC 5 Posts: 16,046 Thanks: 933 Math Focus: Number theory, computational mathematics, combinatorics, FOM, symbolic logic, TCS, algorithms  Re: Proportions in painting Quote:
1:1 4:5 5:6 24:29 are the 'best' approximations to your chosen ratio, in terms of having small numerator and denominator. You'll notice that until the last these alternate between overestimates and underestimates, so you can see the process as improving on itself until it hits on your ideal ratio. In a less aesthetic sense you might see the ratios 1:1, 4:5, and 5:6 as substitutes for your size if you were forced to use presized canvasses, papers, etc.. Mathematically, your number is close to sqrt(e)/2 which is nice. If you take the sum of the two ratios (24/29 + 29/24) you get (roughly) the golden ratio times the third root of 2.  
July 9th, 2013, 12:40 AM  #4 
Newbie Joined: May 2013 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0  Re: Proportions in painting
Wonderful feedback! Thank you! That's very interesting and will help me think about perhaps scale both up and down in size. I am so glad this forum exists! A 
July 9th, 2013, 05:40 AM  #5 
Global Moderator Joined: Nov 2006 From: UTC 5 Posts: 16,046 Thanks: 933 Math Focus: Number theory, computational mathematics, combinatorics, FOM, symbolic logic, TCS, algorithms  Re: Proportions in painting
One more thing. If the continued fraction was [0, 1, 4, 1, 4, 1, 4, 1, 4, ... ] instead, you would have which as a quadratic irrational is again similar to phi. The best approximations to this are 1 2:3 3:4 4:5 5:6 24:29 29:35 140:169 169:204 816:985 which might provide scaling opportunities in the other direction. 
July 20th, 2013, 02:16 PM  #6  
Math Team Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,579 Thanks: 22  Re: Proportions in painting Quote:
 
February 2nd, 2014, 11:03 AM  #7 
Newbie Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0  Re: Proportions in painting
Awesome info!! Didn't Da Vinci also use some kind of ratios in his paintings?

February 2nd, 2014, 05:58 PM  #8  
Global Moderator Joined: Nov 2006 From: UTC 5 Posts: 16,046 Thanks: 933 Math Focus: Number theory, computational mathematics, combinatorics, FOM, symbolic logic, TCS, algorithms  Re: Proportions in painting Quote:
 

Tags 
painting, proportions 
Search tags for this page 
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Thread Tools  
Display Modes  

Similar Threads  
Thread  Thread Starter  Forum  Replies  Last Post 
Proportions  Mpigs89  Elementary Math  3  November 25th, 2013 09:31 PM 
painting graph  derivatives  getwolfgang  Real Analysis  3  October 15th, 2013 07:31 AM 
Proportions  MathematicallyObtuse  Algebra  3  February 7th, 2012 07:13 AM 
mean proportions  empiricus  Algebra  1  August 14th, 2011 05:53 AM 
Proportions  3ztt  Algebra  2  February 9th, 2009 10:26 AM 