
Algebra PreAlgebra and Basic Algebra Math Forum 
 LinkBack  Thread Tools  Display Modes 
January 4th, 2015, 06:20 PM  #1 
Senior Member Joined: Feb 2014 From: Louisiana Posts: 156 Thanks: 6 Math Focus: algebra and the calculus  Ratios as expressed by division
This might seem like a silly question, but why do we use division to compare two quantities, i.e., a ratio? I've always taken for granted that dividing two physical quantities tells how many of one quantity there is for the other quantity, but why exactly does this work? Why don't we define some new operation that represents the comparison between two quantities rather than division?

January 4th, 2015, 07:02 PM  #2 
Global Moderator Joined: Oct 2008 From: London, Ontario, Canada  The Forest City Posts: 7,757 Thanks: 1008 Math Focus: Elementary mathematics and beyond 
Ratios and division, though closely related, are not the same thing. More precisely, ratios employ division to give an idea of the proportion between two or more quantities, whereas division tells us how a certain quantity (the divisor) is in proportion to another quantity (the dividend). Consider the following example: A pie is divided into six equal slices. John eats two slices and Mary eats one slice. The ratio of slices consumed (John : Mary) is 2 : 1. The portion of the pie that is consumed is 1/2. From the ratio, if we had no other information, we can only tell that John ate twice as much as Mary. From the fraction 1/2, we can determine that exactly half the pie was consumed, but we can't tell who ate how much. Note that 2 + 1 = 3, 3/6 = 1/2, etc. Last edited by greg1313; January 4th, 2015 at 07:06 PM. 
January 4th, 2015, 10:06 PM  #3 
Senior Member Joined: Oct 2013 From: Far far away Posts: 422 Thanks: 18 
Division can be understood in two ways: 1. The intuitively understandable way i.e. 6/2 means how many 2's in 6. There are 10 apples. I want to give 2 to each person. How many person's can I give apples to? 10/2 = 5 persons. 2. The sharing concept: There are 10 apples and 5 people. How many will each person get? In this case, we want to share the 10 apples among 5 people. This is difficult (for me at least) to wrap your head around. Look at how we read multiplication 2 * 5 = 10 is read as 2, 5's are 10 OR 2 times 5 is 10. Read this way, it implies that the first number (2 in this case) is the number of groups and the second number (5 in this case) is the number in each group. Now division as understood in (1) above is taken to be the reverse process, finding the number of groups, each group consisting of 2 apples. Division understood in (2) above is taken as a variant of the reverse process, finding the number in each group, such that there are 5 groups. But remember that 2 * 5 = 5 * 2. So 2 groups of 5 each = 5 groups of 2 each = 10. So, Let 10/2 = x. This means x groups of 2 (understood the first way). But, it also means 2 groups of x (understood the second way  sharing) When it comes to ratio, it is the second meaning (sharing) that matters. When someone travels 50 km in 2 hours and we divide 50km/2hours and get 25km/1hour, we are sharing the distance among 2 hours and we discover that each hour gets (its share) 25 km. We are not finding how many 2 hours are in 50 km (understood the first way). Imagine there are 10 men and 5 women. What is the ratio of men to women? We want to 'share' the men among women. So 10/5 = 2/1. The ratio is 2 men/1 woman = 2 : 1. This is the way I understand it. I hope I'm not wrong. 

Tags 
division, expressed, fractions, ratios 
Thread Tools  
Display Modes  

Similar Threads  
Thread  Thread Starter  Forum  Replies  Last Post 
Division for ratios  Mr Davis 97  Elementary Math  9  August 13th, 2014 02:17 AM 
Powers expressed as sum of consecutive numbers  mente oscura  Number Theory  7  June 1st, 2013 02:48 AM 
Why can a function be expressed as a Taylor Series?  Issler  Real Analysis  1  March 14th, 2012 12:56 PM 
Every integer can be expressed as a product of primes?  self_study  Number Theory  8  March 14th, 2010 04:04 AM 
Factorial expressed as the sum of a series  new ?  CarlPierce  Number Theory  5  October 31st, 2009 02:29 AM 