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August 3rd, 2018, 03:51 AM   #11
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Ebba, good place to practice similar problems:

https://www.purplemath.com/modules/coinprob.htm
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August 3rd, 2018, 08:57 AM   #12
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Beer soaked recall follows.

I just went through volume 12 of The Complete Peanuts a few weeks ago and this coin problem by Ebba Sen Pai reminded me of a problem faced by Peppermint Patty way back in 2.26.1974 where she read:

A man has 20 coins consisting of dimes and quarters. If the dimes were quarters and the quarters were dimes, he would have ninety cents more than he has now. How many dimes and quarters does he have?

Unusually sober at the time, I simply wrote it down for future reference.
It seemed like the problem was out of place for a 4th grade (or was it 5th grade?) student.
I know it's a problem routinely solved by Sir D with his eyes closed but it somehow gave me pause. Totally rusty. Had to go through a brute force approach for about half an hour (maybe more) before I finally visualized its solution as
[.10*x+.25*(20-x)]-[.25*x+.10*(20-x)=-.95
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August 3rd, 2018, 09:55 AM   #13
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Sir J, I'm SURE that you would have solved instantly
if that puzzle has been worded along the lines of:

A man has 20 bottles of beer consisting of quarts and pints.
If the pints were quarts and the quarts were pints, how many ounces.......

Can't understand your solution; mine is (a bit long!):

d + q = 20 ; q = 20 - d [1]

.10q + .25d - .10d - .25q = .90
.15d - .15q = .90 ; divide by .15:
d - q = 6 ; subs. [1]:
d - 20 + d = 6
2d = 26
d = 13
q = 20 - 13 = 7

Edit:
Skip would probably reduce above to ~2.1745...steps
using sneaky stuff like:
difference in number of coins = .90 / (.25 - .10) = 6
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August 3rd, 2018, 10:04 AM   #14
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[.10*x+.25*(20-x)]-[.25*x+.10*(20-x)=-.95
Ahhh...yer missing a half bracket, plus -.95 should be -.90:

[.10*x+.25*(20-x)]-[.25*x+.10*(20-x)]=-.90

x = 13 = dimes (which you did not "declare"!)

To the corner for .95 of an hour...with max. of 6 beers...
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August 3rd, 2018, 10:26 AM   #15
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Man, I totally did not notice those typos. Good catch Sir D.
The corner is not good enough for my carelessness; I should be sent to the principal this time around for coming to class hammered.
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