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June 15th, 2018, 12:05 AM   #1
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Failing to understand the problem

I am failing to understand the problem to make any attempt. How to solve it ? and what is the significance of these kind of problems?
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 June 15th, 2018, 07:37 AM #2 Global Moderator   Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,547 Thanks: 1752 Consider the consequences of x$_1$ = 0.
 June 15th, 2018, 08:43 AM #3 Senior Member     Joined: Sep 2015 From: USA Posts: 2,102 Thanks: 1093 for (a) consider $x_1 = 2$ for (b) consider values where $x = \dfrac{1}{x-1}$ for (c) count how many solutions there are to the equation mentioned for (b) for (d), suppose there was a set of $x_k$ such that the product equalled $0$. well clearly one of the $x_k=0$. It can only be the 20007th value or we're going to try and divide by $0$ to find $x_{k+1}$ But there is no value $x$ such that $\dfrac{1}{x-1}=0$ and thus there is no way for the recursion to produce $x_{2007}=0$
June 15th, 2018, 09:04 AM   #4
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 Originally Posted by romsek (d) . . . it can only be the 20007th value or we're going to try and divide by $0$ to find $x_{k+1}$
That reasoning is incorrect, as x$_{2006}$ = 0 implies x$_{2007}$ = -1.
However, no zero occurs in the product, because 1/(x - 1) cannot be zero.

June 15th, 2018, 09:09 AM   #5
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 Originally Posted by skipjack That reasoning is incorrect, as x$_{2006}$ = 0 implies x$_{2007}$ = -1. However, no zero occurs in the product, because 1/(x - 1) cannot be zero.
Yes, I had just noticed that and was correcting it. Thank you.

Actually it's completely wrong. Let $x_1=0$

The resulting sequence is derived without complication and the product does equal 0.

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 June 15th, 2018, 09:58 AM #6 Global Moderator   Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,547 Thanks: 1752 The product doesn't include x$_1$, so it isn't zero. Thanks from romsek and MathsLearner123
 June 15th, 2018, 10:47 PM #7 Member   Joined: Aug 2017 From: India Posts: 45 Thanks: 2 Thank you very much. From your support, I finally arrived like this A. $\displaystyle x1 = 2, x2 = 1 (2,1), x1=1, \text{ Invalid Condition}$ B. Solving for $\displaystyle x = 1/(x-1);$ $\displaystyle x = (1 \pm \sqrt{5})/2$ C. There are only two choices for x as above in B. D. There does not exist a choice. Last edited by skipjack; June 16th, 2018 at 12:47 AM.
 June 16th, 2018, 12:52 AM #8 Global Moderator   Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,547 Thanks: 1752 Your answer for (A) is expressed unclearly. What about (E)? Thanks from MathsLearner123
June 16th, 2018, 01:03 AM   #9
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$\displaystyle x1=2,x2=1 (2,1)$
x1 = 1; The equation is not valid.

OK. I understand now the answer should be A.

 June 16th, 2018, 01:52 AM #10 Global Moderator   Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 19,547 Thanks: 1752 (A) specifies x$_1$ is not equal to 1. However, (A) is incorrect.

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