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July 2nd, 2017, 03:42 PM   #11
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. . . fairly accurate
What exactly does that mean?
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What exactly does that mean?
It means that there is experimental error in the performance of the lab which vary from heat loss of the apparatus, measurements, mathematical loss between equations and rounding, etc.
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What does "fairly accurate" mean, as distinct from, say, "roughly accurate" or "not very accurate"? Can your data values be 10% too low, for example? If not, how do you know?
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Well I have tremendous sympathy with the student here. Apparently the "professor" did not explain about calibrating instruments, estimating experimental error, or the dangers of extrapolating far from the range of observed data. When you have an idiot for a teacher, you must expect rather confused questions from the student.

The experiments were done around 0-100 degrees Celsius, but the teacher demands a graph extending to absolute zero. The teacher is a fool, a charlatan, or both.

I have had employees trained by such idiots. Fortunately, if you get to the victims early enough, quite a few can be rescued.
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I wouldn't be too rash in your assessment of the professor. They are teaching students at a state college level, many of whom probably barely passed high school. The content is not complete nor too in depth for the abbreviated summer semester that the course is being given in.

I do not count myself in this group. I happen to already have a bachelors in science and have done work in lab settings before. I recognize flaws in the methodology and limitations in the equipment. I just thought that producing a log plot would clean up the graph more. In the sense that there would be more room to view the given data points, why waste the space showing absolute zero, when the differentiation between the experimentally derived data is more important to graph accurately. I contacted him about this and he said strictly graph pressure versus temperature.

I am not the strongest in math, but I am not afraid of it either I need to develop more skill in log, ln, e and the manipulations of such.
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