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 May 24th, 2017, 11:50 AM #1 Senior Member   Joined: Aug 2014 From: Mars Posts: 101 Thanks: 9 Logarithms... I took an AccuPlacer and just barely missed it. I noticed this question and when I tried researching it, something didn't match up and I'm hoping you know what I'm missing. My basic understanding is that $\displaystyle log_{6} 216 = 3$ but the question I'm trying to remember didn't seem to match... The answer is an estimate from my memory. Hoping someone could point me in a direction that might be more helpful. I'm suppose to figure out the last problem based on the answers to the first two. To state it again, the .3000 and the .4700 are based on memory, I wasn't allowed to bring notes with me. $\displaystyle log_{10} 2 = .3000$ , $\displaystyle log_{10} 3 = .4700$, $\displaystyle log_{10} 24 = ?????$ Any guess? Last edited by Opposite; May 24th, 2017 at 11:53 AM. May 24th, 2017, 12:23 PM   #2
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 Originally Posted by Opposite I took an AccuPlacer and just barely missed it. I noticed this question and when I tried researching it, something didn't match up and I'm hoping you know what I'm missing. My basic understanding is that $\displaystyle log_{6} 216 = 3$ but the question I'm trying to remember didn't seem to match... The answer is an estimate from my memory. Hoping someone could point me in a direction that might be more helpful. I'm suppose to figure out the last problem based on the answers to the first two. To state it again, the .3000 and the .4700 are based on memory, I wasn't allowed to bring notes with me. $\displaystyle log_{10} 2 = .3000$ , $\displaystyle log_{10} 3 = .4700$, $\displaystyle log_{10} 24 = ?????$ Any guess?
Try this according to your logic
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Last edited by dthiaw; May 24th, 2017 at 12:25 PM. May 24th, 2017, 01:53 PM #3 Math Team   Joined: Jul 2011 From: Texas Posts: 3,002 Thanks: 1588 Using the values you recall ... $\log(24)=\log( 8 \cdot 3) = \log(8 )+\log(3)=\log(2^3)+\log(3)=3\log(2)+\log(3)= 3(.3000)+0.4700 = 1.3700$ In actuality, $\log_{10}(2) \approx 0.3010$ and $\log_{10}(3) \approx 0.4771$ Thanks from Opposite and dthiaw May 24th, 2017, 04:22 PM   #4
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BIG OOpppps disregard that 4 factor  May 25th, 2017, 09:32 AM #5 Senior Member   Joined: Aug 2014 From: Mars Posts: 101 Thanks: 9 @Skeeter, yes this was the set of equations. $\log_{10}(2) \approx 0.3010$ and $\log_{10}(3) \approx 0.4771$ But I still don't get it. I only know the original formula, $\log_{6} 216 = 3$ and this tells me that 6*6*6 = 216.... How does $\log_{10}(2) \approx 0.3010$ ? May 25th, 2017, 09:48 AM   #6
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 Originally Posted by Opposite @Skeeter, yes this was the set of equations. $\log_{10}(2) \approx 0.3010$ and $\log_{10}(3) \approx 0.4771$ But I still don't get it. I only know the original formula, $\log_{6} 216 = 3$ and this tells me that 6*6*6 = 216.... How does $\log_{10}(2) \approx 0.3010$ ?
The values of $\log_{10}(2)$ and $\log_{10}(3)$ come from a calculator or a log table ... were the values given to you in the problem statement?

How was $\log_6(216) = 3$ involved with the base 10 log question? May 25th, 2017, 10:42 AM   #7
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 Originally Posted by skeeter The values of $\log_{10}(2)$ and $\log_{10}(3)$ come from a calculator or a log table ... were the values given to you in the problem statement? How was $\log_6(216) = 3$ involved with the base 10 log question?
I know nothing about Log, that's how it's involved.

The test only gave the first two. But I was only allowed a basic computer calculator. How would I calculate this on my own? May 25th, 2017, 11:13 AM   #8
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 The test only gave the first two. But I was only allowed a basic computer calculator. How would I calculate this on my own?
Without getting too detailed, here are the main log properties one should have learned in Algebra 2 or Precalculus ...

relationship between a logarithm and its corresponding exponential function ... $\log_b(y) = x \implies y = b^x$, $b > 0$, $b\ne 1$, and $y>0$

Properties of logs ...

1. $\log_b(1) = 0$

2. $\log_b(x \cdot y) = \log_b(x) + \log_b(y)$

3. $\log_b \left(\dfrac{x}{y} \right) = \log_b(x) - \log_b(y)$

4. $\log_b(x^n) = n \cdot \log_b(x)$

If the question was to determine the value of $\log_{10}(24)$ using the given decimal values for $\log_{10}(2)$ and $\log_{10}(3)$, the problem is testing one's knowledge of the properties of logs, specifically properties #2 and #4 above ...

$\log_{10}(24) = \log_{10}(8 \cdot 3) = \log_{10}(2^3 \cdot 3) = \log_{10}(2^3) + \log_{10}(3) = 3\color{red}{\log_{10}(2)} + \color{blue}{\log_{10}(3)}$

from here, one would substitute in the given decimal values for $\log_{10}(2)$ and $\log_{10}(3)$ ...

$3 \times \color{red}{0.3010} + \color{blue}{0.4771}$

now use the basic calculator to evaluate ...
Attached Images calculation.png (1.1 KB, 12 views) May 25th, 2017, 12:19 PM #9 Senior Member   Joined: Aug 2014 From: Mars Posts: 101 Thanks: 9 Thankyou. Is there a website you recommend with a lesson on this? May 25th, 2017, 12:26 PM   #10
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 Originally Posted by Opposite Thankyou. Is there a website you recommend with a lesson on this?
do a google search on properties of logarithms ... you'll have to choose a site or video that best fits your style of learning Tags logarithms Thread Tools Show Printable Version Email this Page Display Modes Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode Similar Threads Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post hi2you Math 6 January 31st, 2015 06:21 PM a2910 Algebra 3 October 27th, 2014 03:14 PM ron246 Algebra 5 May 22nd, 2014 06:59 AM bugzzy Calculus 5 June 4th, 2011 05:00 PM Mindless_1 Abstract Algebra 0 December 31st, 1969 04:00 PM

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