One number is four more than five times another. If their sum is decreased by six.... One number is four more than five times another. If their sum is decreased by six, the result is ten. Find the numbers. I tried to write the equation from reading this. Is this anywhere near close? x+4+5x6=10 Thanks. 
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Then test it yourself by substituting... 
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and both this time, and last time I can get the first number being 2. yet then I go 2 plus 4 =6 * 5 is 30 6 =24 so not yet figuring out why it is not working for me. 
First of all, you have two numbers. Call them $x$ and $y$. The information gives you two equations relating $x$, $y$ and numbers you are given. See if you can build those equations from the text of the question. 
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"One number is four more than five times another." other number= 5*2 + 4 = 14 ; OK? "If their sum is decreased by six, the result is ten." sum = 2 + 14 = 16 16  6 = 10 : Bingo! You're correct:cool: 
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The only difference is brackets. Continue. 
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Yet if i did it this way it confused me too as i would have gone and got 36x24=10 ? 
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There's no multiplication there; just remove the brackets: x + 4 + 5x  6 = 10 6x = 10  4 + 6 6x = 12 x = 2 
If you write that you have two numbers $x$ and $y$, then you get two equations $y = 4+5x$ and $x+y  6= 10$. If you have learned how to solve simultaneous equations, this is not too difficult to solve (indeed one approach gives you exactly the equation that Denis was working you through. The important thing is to be able to build the equations. To understand what the sentences tell you and be confident that you have written it down correctly. The rest is relatively simple algebra. 
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in front of you, and listen to your bigmouthteacher:cool: 
Never quit looking at the cute girl on your left. She might bring a whole lot of fun into your life. On the other hand, your bigmouthed teacher might also bring a whole lot of fun into your life if you learn what he's teaching. Because maths can be fun. And even if you don't find it so, learning the lessons might get you the sort of exam results that get you a good job and a good income, and the cute girls often come with that too. 
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I just am a learner that needs to be told a formula, have a chance to do the formula, and then have someone watch me and see what I am doing wrong. Otherwise the 30 mins of lecture just is not retained. Thank goodness for this website as I have no one else that understands math around me. 
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"(x + 4+5x)6" doesn't have multiplication. You treated it as 6(x + 4 + 5x), which is different. 
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