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September 5th, 2013, 01:05 PM   #1
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Want to do the masters but hesitated

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I'm a secondary school math teacher but I'm not interested in working with teens anymore (or schools in general) and wished I can teach in college level especially in the USA (I'm NOT a US resident) but I can't afford to do up till the Phd regarding effort and cost. Will the master of Science in Mathematics suffice?. I'm planning to take it from the American University of Sharjah (in Emirates) and the program will cost me an arm and a leg + an enormous amount of effort but I'm ready for all the sacrifices if there are good chances that I'll teach in college level especially in the USA (even for a limited time). I'd appreciate your ideas and thoughts of my prospective chances before taking my final decision. It's so frustrating to invest an enormous amount of money and effort to end up with slim chances in teaching at higher levels AND/OR there's slim chances of getting a visa to the USA to teach for some time.

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Hi. Nice to meet you. I am also doing my master in the United States and I am also a foreigner. Basically, I have not seen anyone with just a master (only PhD students in their last year) teaching a Math class at the Math deparment in my university or any university as a mather of fact. My university at my home country (social sciences and economics) only hires people with PhD's to be professors, but they also hired Mathematicians to teach the Math classes to undergraduate economists and poli sci majors. At UCSD, my school, IRPS, hires a Statistician every year to teach the class of Math/Quantitative Methods every year.

In sum, if you have only a master I see it extremely difficult to teach a Math class at the Math department at a relatively good university, but you could definitely teach at the social sciences departments; every year the social sciences, particularly masters, are becoming more technical and need to teach more quantitative skills for the American students with poor Math backgrounds (basically most of the social sciences students, because Calculus is not a requirement for them). In addition, you are a cheaper source of labor versus a Math PhD, so having a degree in Statistics (very desirable and marketable) or Applied Math could give you lots of opportunities not just teaching, but in general.

Plus, those foreigners with Math degrees are easily granted working visas. I know this is fact.
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You do realize that most of the students at college/university are still teens, and most of the other students are only slightly older? What do you really want to accomplish?
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You do realize that most of the students at college/university are still teens, and most of the other students are only slightly older? What do you really want to accomplish?
And in some cases, they are even worse than those teens he/she mentioned.

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I'm a secondary school math teacher but I'm not interested in working with teens anymore (or schools in general) and wished I can teach in college level especially in the USA (I'm NOT a US resident) but I can't afford to do up till the Phd regarding effort and cost. Will the master of Science in Mathematics suffice?. I'm planning to take it from the American University of Sharjah (in Emirates) and the program will cost me an arm and a leg + an enormous amount of effort but I'm ready for all the sacrifices if there are good chances that I'll teach in college level especially in the USA (even for a limited time). I'd appreciate your ideas and thoughts of my prospective chances before taking my final decision.
IMO: It's not likely you'll get a job teaching at a US college with just a Master's. Even high school teachers often have master's degrees, and there's not enough demand for master's-level instructors at universities to recruit abroad.

So I recommend deciding between (1) staying where you are, (2) getting a master's and teaching at a local university, or (3) getting a PhD and going to the US to teach. Perhaps other options will present themselves, but I see these as most likely.
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