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May 19th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #1
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Take Vector Calculus and Mathematical Reasoning at the same

Hi everyone!

Nice to meet you. I am new to this forum. My name is Valentine.

Next Fall Quarter I will take Vector Calculus and Mathematical Reasoning. I have been taking 4 grad non-mathematical courses and one math-related course for the last two quarters (Calculus 2 and now Multivariable Calculus). In the summer I will take Linear Algebra first (allegedly the easy course) and then Differential Equations. For the Fall quarter, I plan to take 3 non-mathematical grad courses, 1 lower division (Vector Calculus) and 1 Upper Division (Mathematical Reasoning) Math-related courses.

What do you think? Very difficult? Normal? Any recommendations?

Mathematical Reasoning
This course uses a variety of topics in mathematics to introduce the students to rigorous mathematical proof, emphasizing quantifiers, induction, negation, proof by contradiction, naive set theory, equivalence relations and epsilon-delta proofs. Required of all departmental majors.

Vector Calculus
Change of variable in multiple integrals, Jacobian, Line integrals, Green’s theorem. Vector fields, gradient fields, divergence, curl. Spherical/cylindrical coordinates. Taylor series in several variables. Surface integrals, Stoke’s theorem. Gauss’ theorem. Conservative fields. (Credit not offered for both Math 20E and 31CH.) Prerequisites: Math 20C (or Math 21C) or Math 31BH with a grade of C– or better.

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Hi! Welcome to the forums!

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Next Fall Quarter I will take Vector Calculus and Mathematical Reasoning. I have been taking 4 grad non-mathematical courses and one math-related course for the last two quarters (Calculus 2 and now Multivariable Calculus).
What do you mean by "grad"? It must be something different from what I mean by it....

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What do you think? Very difficult? Normal? Any recommendations?
At least one of Mathematical Reasoning and Vector Calculus seems inappropriate -- either you're too advanced for Mathematical Reasoning or you're not ready for Vector Calculus. I mean, if you have to take MR then take it, I guess, but (by the posted description) it was designed to be taken much earlier.

Linear Algebra is not hard in the sense that it does not build on the calculus series (at least, not very much) but don't kid yourself, it's a real class not a pushover. I don't remember DiffEq well enough to give advice.
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[quote=CRGreathouse]Hi! Welcome to the forums!

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Next Fall Quarter I will take Vector Calculus and Mathematical Reasoning. I have been taking 4 grad non-mathematical courses and one math-related course for the last two quarters (Calculus 2 and now Multivariable Calculus).
What do you mean by "grad"? It must be something different from what I mean by it....

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What do you think? Very difficult? Normal? Any recommendations?
At least one of Mathematical Reasoning and Vector Calculus seems inappropriate -- either you're too advanced for Mathematical Reasoning or you're not ready for Vector Calculus. I mean, if you have to take MR then take it, I guess, but (by the posted description) it was designed to be taken much earlier.

Linear Algebra is not hard in the sense that it does not build on the calculus series (at least, not very much) but don't kid yourself, it's a real class not a pushover. I don't remember DiffEq well enough to give advice. [/quote:1oyd8y90]

Hi. Sorry about the misunderstandings.

I am a graduate student in International Relations and one of my concentration areas is International Economics. Since I might pursue a PhD in economics (or a master), I am taking the Math requirements for economics (Multivariable Calculus now, then, in the summer, Linear Algebra -required before taking Mathematical Reasoning-, then Differential Equations, and in the Fall, Vector Calculus and Mathematical Reasoning).

So I am a graduate student taking undergraduate Math courses. I am required to take Linear Algebra before taking Mathematical Reasoning. I do not know why it was designed that way, but I cannot do it in a different way.

Do you think Vector Calculus is way too difficult?
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Hey, another math + econ guy!

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So I am a graduate student taking undergraduate Math courses. I am required to take Linear Algebra before taking Mathematical Reasoning. I do not know why it was designed that way, but I cannot do it in a different way.
If it's required to do it that way, do it that way, I guess!

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Do you think Vector Calculus is way too difficult?
It looks like pretty standard Calc III stuff and maybe a bit beyond. As long as you understood Calc II well it shouldn't be a problem.
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Thank you! I've been having some issues with proofs, so I was a little "scared" of taking Mathematical Reasoning at the same time as V. Calculus, which is supposed to be the hardest course of lower division. But I have been told that M. Reasoning is relatively easy.
Hope to hear more from you!
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Thank you! I've been having some issues with proofs, so I was a little "scared" of taking Mathematical Reasoning at the same time as V. Calculus, which is supposed to be the hardest course of lower division. But I have been told that M. Reasoning is relatively easy.
Hope to hear more from you!
I agree with your intuition. I wouldn't worry about Math. Reasoning at all, simultaneous with Vector Calc or not.
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