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April 27th, 2012, 01:07 AM   #11
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Re: learning math outside a university

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Oh, what a relif! Most people in my country (exeption, father, mother, sisters etc) think that i hv to be more systematic, they want to supress my interest.
Wow, I'm sorry they have that attitude. Unless something is illegal or costs too much money or is turning into an unhealthy obsession or something, I can't comprehend suppressing someone's interest in something. I do think it's good to have more than one interest and that you need to spend time doing other things as well, but I just can't see telling you to stop doing math. Like Mark said, better than being addicted to WoW.

And that's some list of books!
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Yes ,you can learn mathematics outside a university but for job I think you have to take a degree.
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December 21st, 2012, 05:06 PM   #13
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I find it really amazing to see a 12 year old read such a large quantity of high level books, much more than I did myself until now ! That sounds incredible.

On the questions "can one study maths succesfully without getting into a university/college?" and "can one get a job", I'd say this may widely vary between people and targeted jobs (and probably also which country you are in).
My mother had made a huge mistake obliging me to sacrifice myself for following the (French) academic system up to the PhD, as I loved mathematics but hated the academic system and dreamt to develop better teaching methods, as she insisted that following the system is the only way to get a position of research and/or teaching. This sounded like the only possible way to get... uh... the right to breathe in life, as it seemed according to her view of things.
The result was a total disaster to my personal life, and no real job anyway either, because my dreams of developing new ways of explaining mathematics and physics, and my ways of being, turned out to be incompatible with the activity requirements of a university teaching position. I tried one year and could not continue as "serving the system" made no sense to me.

I first did not like the teaching system as a student, as I had better ways of discovering mathematics on my own.

Then I undertook to write down mathematics and physics courses in the ways I found to be better that what I saw elsewhere until now : settheory.net. Unfortunately it's still far from encompassing all the subjects I wished to do, as I lost a lot of energy in different ways and I had other subjects to write on (philosophy), but you can already visit it, I worked a lot to make this beginning of mathematics quite close to perfection, and I will try to continue.
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December 22nd, 2012, 01:46 PM   #14
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I find it really amazing to see a 12 year old read such a large quantity of high level books, much more than I did myself until now ! That sounds incredible.
He could be a retired grandfather.

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My mother had made a huge mistake obliging me to sacrifice myself for following the (French) academic system up to the PhD, as I loved mathematics but hated the academic system and dreamt to develop better teaching methods, as she insisted that following the system is the only way to get a position of research and/or teaching.
Your mom is very nice, and she is right.

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The result was a total disaster to my personal life, and no real job anyway either, because my dreams of developing new ways of explaining mathematics and physics, and my ways of being, turned out to be incompatible with the activity requirements of a university teaching position. I tried one year and could not continue as "serving the system" made no sense to me.
Don't bother, the world will not thank your for it. I have learned to take care of myself first; I won't save the world. Just let it go to hell, soon it will take care of it self.

I like set theory, and you work is spectacular, but I couldn't understand it. I am not as smart as most people, but most people are also dumber than I.
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He could be a retired grandfather.
Not yet!
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December 29th, 2012, 07:41 AM   #16
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Mathbalarka,
Since you are not retired or retarded, we badly need a young mathematician like you in the West. I know India will be fuming mad at me. Don't mind India, she will get over it.
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I recently taken my Postgraduate degree from a recognized university with out attending any classes and only studying privately. I just prepared with the help of the material that they had provided and successfully attended the practical examination. This helps me a lot with out effecting my job.

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It depends on what you think math is.

For me math is an art. And art can only be learned from artists or yourself. And so called "math" is just a tool.

You can only be an artist like a piano player, by learning from a piano player. You cannot be a piano player, learning from a piano maker.

For me, math is an art and you cannot learn it in school. At least now the way it is normally taught, as a so called "science".
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Think of it like this. Figure skating. Half the score is "technical merits" and half the score is "artistic impression". You can be taught technical merits, but no one can teach you "artistic impression".
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